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Author Topic: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).  (Read 92554 times)

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #225 on: January 13, 2012, 10:55:19 PM »

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #226 on: January 13, 2012, 11:04:26 PM »
Have to agree with those who think a protest against Lerner is a more viable proposition and frankly this protest is just the anti-blose lot who've been quietly festering resentment about AM ever since he arrived. AM is doing ok i guess considering he had about a minus 15m budget in the summer. Like most people i have major doubts about his style of football and coaching ability but whereas with MON you could legitimately moan at the rubbish football because of his spending, with AM the question remains if he's sacked, who's gonna take over who's gonna improve the football? You really can't expect any manager to play champagne football with the likes of Dunne, Ivanhoe, Hutton Collins and Warnock lodged in the side. Houllier couldn't manage it and managed to upset the old hoof! guard in the process and thats the fundamental problem - if the chairman won't cough up the dough to replace them  because he was screwed financially by a previous manager then changing the managers isn't going to do much really. Barring a miracle from the youth team we can only hope long term that Lerner starts spending or buggers off and sells to someone who can afford to run a big premiership team.


Still think AM's appointment will all end in tears though.....

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #227 on: January 13, 2012, 11:26:42 PM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #228 on: January 13, 2012, 11:27:26 PM »
I don't know what's going to happen but I don't think we're in the shit. We're mid-table and that's where we'll probably stay.
Are you happy with that?

Long-term no. For this season, yes.

Agreed. Mid-table mediocrity is OK for this season. Villa don't have the squad to do any better at the moment. Changing the manager isn't going to alter that.

The Manager should have this season at least to see what he can do.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #229 on: January 13, 2012, 11:36:11 PM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #230 on: January 13, 2012, 11:43:16 PM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

Rubbish. RL has put his heart and soul into this club since he took over. Get out of your armchair occasionally and you might catch a glimpse.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 11:44:56 PM by Jimmy Smash »

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #231 on: January 13, 2012, 11:47:47 PM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

Rubbish. RL has put his heart and soul into this club since he took over. Get out of your arm chair occasionally and you might catch a glimpse.


well you're entitled to your opinion but as far as i'm concerned the whole RL/MON period might as well not have happened. We're stuck back where we started before he took over under Doug and DOL. Skint, fearing relegation and with an actually smaller squad than back then. Oh but we have a shiny new pub that no-one uses, so thats something.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #232 on: January 13, 2012, 11:50:35 PM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

Rubbish. RL has put his heart and soul into this club since he took over. Get out of your armchair occasionally and you might catch a glimpse.

His heart and soul ain't in it at the moment, that's for sure.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #233 on: January 13, 2012, 11:53:44 PM »
Big difference between Ellis and Lerner.
The former addressed us at an AGM every year and answered our questions.
The latter bought our shares off us.

Discuss.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #234 on: January 13, 2012, 11:56:53 PM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

Rubbish. RL has put his heart and soul into this club since he took over. Get out of your arm chair occasionally and you might catch a glimpse.


well you're entitled to your opinion but as far as i'm concerned the whole RL/MON period might as well not have happened. We're stuck back where we started before he took over under Doug and DOL. Skint, fearing relegation and with an actually smaller squad than back then. Oh but we have a shiny new pub that no-one uses, so thats something.

Good for you Nash. You are a recumbent malcontent of old. And what do you mean by "we" exactly?

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #235 on: January 13, 2012, 11:59:30 PM »
Ungrateful as it seems, Lerner's big plus was his money. Now its gone or seems to be, then who wants an invisible Doug or Kenwright based in america? At least them too are/were there day to day and know whats going on. I doubt the Houllier vs player thing would have got a hold if he wasn't MIA all the time

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #236 on: January 14, 2012, 12:01:23 AM »
So what's your suggested 'solution' to the problem Greg?

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #237 on: January 14, 2012, 12:01:43 AM »
Unfortunately, there is a fair amount of truth in what Greg says.

We are skint, we will be mooking around the arse end of the table, and the squad is far too small.

That's probably not what anyone expected for year five of proud history, bright future.

For all the money Randy put in, which he's trying to claw back and which we onow we him, he has managed the growth of the club so badly that we've regressed.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 12:03:43 AM by pauliewalnuts »

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #238 on: January 14, 2012, 12:03:12 AM »
Ungrateful as it seems, Lerner's big plus was his money. Now its gone or seems to be, then who wants an invisible Doug or Kenwright based in america? At least them too are/were there day to day and know whats going on. I doubt the Houllier vs player thing would have got a hold if he wasn't MIA all the time

 I can't even be bothered to debate with you. Every post you ever submit is an excuse for not going down.

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Re: Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).
« Reply #239 on: January 14, 2012, 12:04:02 AM »
A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

Rubbish. RL has put his heart and soul into this club since he took over. Get out of your arm chair occasionally and you might catch a glimpse.


well you're entitled to your opinion but as far as i'm concerned the whole RL/MON period might as well not have happened. We're stuck back where we started before he took over under Doug and DOL. Skint, fearing relegation and with an actually smaller squad than back then. Oh but we have a shiny new pub that no-one uses, so thats something.

Good for you Nash. You are a recumbent malcontent of old. And what do you mean by "we" exactly?

meh. either argue your case or don't bother. Haven't got the patience for the "better fan than yow" schick. How exactly are we better off now than before Doug left.?

pub
free coach trip
erm....

 


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