McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[drisaac]

Given that the system worked really well last night, where does Gabby fit into the team for the next game, when Bent is fit?  Should he be dropped?  That would be a bold and brave move for McLeish, but I very much doubt that's what we'll see...

[Ryu]

Gabby could play where Ireland/Bannan did but more as a support striker than a midfielder. Might be a bit attacking but he does but a shift in and if Heskey can play there then why the hell not?

Alternatively he can go back out on the left where he's been good this season and The Zog can go in the middle.

[rutski]

Gabby could play where Ireland/Bannan did but more as a support striker than a midfielder. Might be a bit attacking but he does but a shift in and if Heskey can play there then why the hell not?

Alternatively he can go back out on the left where he's been good this season and The Zog can go in the middle.

i agree with your second point with zog where ireland was, but i also thought bannan did real well. that was the best atmosphere the team will have felt for a while so hopefully they can themselves up their performances! AM would have been amazed at the atmosphere and that may in chance inspire him!

[john e]

he cant drop Gabby,
 there is no one who has given Gabby as much stick as me on here over the years, but he has been fantastic this season, and to drop him after one bad game is rediculous.
he's been our best player so far this season by a mile so deserves a bit of loyalty from the manager.

also Guzan is doing a great job in goals so far, i always thought he was better than that one game against Blackburn.

we have to hope that AM can build something,
 and the performance last night was a good one, so credit where its due, on the match thread it was very positive even though we lost, which just goes to show its not always the result alone that gets us moaning its the performance which at the moment for me is actually more important.

[Ryu]

I agree that Bannan did very well so it would be a shame not to play him. But I also felt sorry for Ireland as he finally looked like he was playing well.

But at least we're talking about attacking options, which I couldn't have imagined earlier this week!

[Rancid custard]

also Guzan is doing a great job in goals so far, i always thought he was better than that one game against Blackburn.

I've always thought that, he's a great shot stopper, top notch at penalties, his only weakness is not being commanding or decisive enough on corners and free kicks.

I'm just glad we actually showed a bit of fight too, we rolled over for man u and the scousers, if we can have a good go at stoke and chelsea I'll be happy.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Gabby should play on the left where he caused Norwich so many problems. Zoggy should play where Ireland played if he isn't fit.

[ez]

Judging by last nights improved performance somebody else may have given McLeish a kick up the backside.

[KRS]

Much improved performance last night so lets hope we can build on this and carry it into the next few games. If we dont pick up points against Stoke and Chelski then we could be 15th in the table before we play Swansea.

[ktvillan]

KT and Ozzjim.
It would be hypocritical for me to say that anyone should blindly support the team as I am usually one of the first to complain and often want managers sacked after half a season. On this occasion, I just want to give McLeish more time as I despise player power especially with the wages they are on. Regarding Blackburn, perhaps their fans have a point. It just seemed to me that, whatever the team did, they would want the manager out, which I find ridiculous. My gut feeling will tell me when a managerial change is necessary at Villa Park. Maybe I am just being cantankerous but there are plenty who have never given McLeish a chance. He has never had his name chanted by our fans in a favourable way. That is sad.
I hope we can pull this round but it will need money spending on the team and it is unfair on all of us if that doesn't happen. Years of paying to watch the team and buying merchandise etc should be rewarded. One concern I have is the future generations of Villa fans. Those that stick with us will be as cynical as the rest of us well before their time. No, I am not enjoying it this season, but ganging up on McLeish will solve nothing. Lerner knows we are unhappy and, if he decides to keep his manager, he cannot let him be fed to the wolves. Give us some exciting signings and bring a few smiles back to Villa Park.

DCF sorry I've not been able to get onto the site for a few days so this is a belated reply and doesn't take into account what's been said since.  I should have specified that I am not in favour of "McLeish out" campaigns at the game just yet, I think it's a little too soon, even though I genuinely believe we will never go anywhere under such a limited manager.  My point was about protests during the match per se, which based on your posts, you seem to be against in principle.  For me they are legitimate and have a point, but they should not be the first resort.  It 's interesting that since my last post  we played much much better against Arsenal, but still fell foul of familiar failings, and while there are a lot of positives to be taken, the fact is we dropped into the bottom half and are only a bad result or two away from being in a relegation battle.   Unless McLeish can swing a few positive results quickly in the new year, it's almost inevitable for him to start getting some flak from the crowd, and probably rightly so.

[Dave Clark Five]

KT
I was pleased with the way the crowd got behind the team against Arsenal. Considering all that had been said before the game, it was brilliant how everyone was so supportive. In similar circumstances in other seasons, the crowd would have been slagging the team from the start.  That was not the case this time. Everyone stuck together, on and off the pitch, and it created a great atmosphere.

[ozzjim]

KT
I was pleased with the way the crowd got behind the team against Arsenal. Considering all that had been said before the game, it was brilliant how everyone was so supportive. In similar circumstances in other seasons, the crowd would have been slagging the team from the start.  That was not the case this time. Everyone stuck together, on and off the pitch, and it created a great atmosphere.

Much to do with team selection. He made changes and it bought him time with the crowd IMO, and the players game the crowd something to cheer, which is only right.

[jonc73]

It's important to continue well against Stoke now.If the team can build on the Arsenal game I'm sure the gloom would lift quite quickly.Stoke is a team we can have a go at too.My fingers are crossed

[ozzjim]

It's important to continue well against Stoke now.If the team can build on the Arsenal game I'm sure the gloom would lift quite quickly.Stoke is a team we can have a go at too.My fingers are crossed

As are Chelsea at the moment..

[hawkeye]

I dont want to see us ever play the surrender football like we did against Manure, Spurs, Citeh and Liverpool. If he has worked that out then he deserves a chance.