McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[Concrete John]

He had the chance to get a midfielder in,and blew it on a crocked spud.

So which loan midfieler would you have got in with what we had to spend fee and wages wise?

[SX150]

Things were a mess when Graham Taylor came in agreed, but he gave us confidence. I was amazed what he did with some pretty average players, the kind of feeling you don't get from McLeish.

[bertlambshank]

He had the chance to get a midfielder in,and blew it on a crocked spud.

So which loan midfieler would you have got in with what we had to spend fee and wages wise?

we let a midfielder go out on loan who would of given us a lot more.

[Concrete John]

He had the chance to get a midfielder in,and blew it on a crocked spud.

So which loan midfieler would you have got in with what we had to spend fee and wages wise?

we let a midfielder go out on loan who would of given us a lot more.

If you mean Gardner then that wasn't the point you made nor the answer, as we would only have had one experienced midfielder on our books, should we exclude Ireland.

[bertlambshank]

No,GM II.

[Damo70]

Things were a mess when Graham Taylor came in agreed, but he gave us confidence. I was amazed what he did with some pretty average players, the kind of feeling you don't get from McLeish.

We only just stayed up in our first top flight season under Sir Graham and had a bad start to the following season including losing at home to QPR and a nearly forty year old Trevor Francis hat-trick. Maybe we should have had some banners and protests at the Derby game that followed. Or maybe it was a good idea to keep calm and see how the season panned out.

[Herman]

Much seems to be made of McCleish's League Cup win at Birmingham. Whilst winning it is an achievement of sorts, they only had to beat two half decent teams throughout their cup run, us and Arsenal reserves. Its harked as some kind of monumental achievement and a stamp of McCleish's ability when it was more due to a piss easy run of games and a shite Arsenal keeper     

[Concrete John]

No,GM II.

Not sure I agree he would have given us a lot more.  GH signed him and didn't play him much.  Then neither did Mcallister, AM obviously didn't fancy him either and he's not been playing regularly in Greece either.

[SX150]

Things were a mess when Graham Taylor came in agreed, but he gave us confidence. I was amazed what he did with some pretty average players, the kind of feeling you don't get from McLeish.

We only just stayed up in our first top flight season under Sir Graham and had a bad start to the following season including losing at home to QPR and a nearly forty year old Trevor Francis hat-trick. Maybe we should have had some banners and protests at the Derby game that followed. Or maybe it was a good idea to keep calm and see how the season panned out.

Did you not get a different feel under GT because I did. Not everything was a bed of roses agreed but it did seem 1 step back and 2 forward. I feel the McLeish thing is totally different.

[Merv]

Villa have lost too many midfielders over the last couple of years and not replaced them properly, so we're bound to have been weakened in that area. But I don't think we can use Jenas as a stick to beat McLeish with; he's a decent player and the injury was a bit unlucky. He could have been a decent signing.

[pauliewalnuts]

Much seems to be made of McCleish's League Cup win at Birmingham. Whilst winning it is an achievement of sorts, they only had to beat two half decent teams throughout their cup run, us and Arsenal reserves. Its harked as some kind of monumental achievement and a stamp of McCleish's ability when it was more due to a piss easy run of games and a shite Arsenal keeper     

I certainly don't remember many on here hailing it as an amazing achievement at the time.

[Concrete John]

Much seems to be made of McCleish's League Cup win at Birmingham. Whilst winning it is an achievement of sorts, they only had to beat two half decent teams throughout their cup run, us and Arsenal reserves. Its harked as some kind of monumental achievement and a stamp of McCleish's ability when it was more due to a piss easy run of games and a shite Arsenal keeper

Not sure I'd class us a good side last year!

But I see the point as it was a lucky goal that beat both us and Arsenal. 

[Rigadon]

Much seems to be made of McCleish's League Cup win at Birmingham. Whilst winning it is an achievement of sorts, they only had to beat two half decent teams throughout their cup run, us and Arsenal reserves. Its harked as some kind of monumental achievement and a stamp of McCleish's ability when it was more due to a piss easy run of games and a shite Arsenal keeper     

I certainly don't remember many on here hailing it as an amazing achievement at the time.

Quite.

[Rigadon]

He doen't help himself with constant references to 'the big cubs' and 'the bigger clubs'.  I know I'm probably being a bit silly, but I never hear somebody like David Moyes do that.  FFS Alex, you are a manager of a BIG CLUB!   Act like it! 

Anyway, off to the game.  Fingers crossed we get a big improvement.

[Nev]

Things were a mess when Graham Taylor came in agreed, but he gave us confidence. I was amazed what he did with some pretty average players, the kind of feeling you don't get from McLeish.

We only just stayed up in our first top flight season under Sir Graham and had a bad start to the following season including losing at home to QPR and a nearly forty year old Trevor Francis hat-trick. Maybe we should have had some banners and protests at the Derby game that followed. Or maybe it was a good idea to keep calm and see how the season panned out.

There is a marked difference. Taylor had already proved his worth at Villa and bought himself time and the trust of the fans. We had faith in Sir Graham, few have faith in  the current manager, mainly due to his (continuing) poor record and uninspiring football.