McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[London Villan]

The club have done sod all to help him though, no statements about what the vision/aim is for the next couple of years, only PF's comments about Europe.

They have hung McLeish out to dry and he probably knew this would be the case and the reason he is getting between £1m and £3m (depending on who you believe) a year.

What this doesn't excuse if the baffling selections and the "we are going out to limit the loss" demeanor.

[Stu]

McLeish has been given the tools to achieve mid table stability and if that's where we are come the end of the season he'll have done his job.

Well our CEO thinks we should be challenging for Europe.

[Chris Smith]

Four seasons, four fucking seasons.

Don't any of you stop to think before trotting out the same incorrect line.

1) Relegated in his first half season.
2) Promoted
3) Finidhed 9th, their best in the PL
4) Carling Cup and relegation.

Four seasons.

[Stu]

Four seasons, four fucking seasons.

Don't any of you stop to think before trotting out the same incorrect line.

1) Relegated in his first half season.
2) Promoted
3) Finidhed 9th, their best in the PL
4) Carling Cup and relegation.

Four seasons.

So still two relegations then. One of which because his team had shot their bolt on the Carling Cup win and thought they could put their feet up after February.

The Blues relegation fight last year was beyond pathetic.

[Chris Smith]

Or, the version my mate gives that they suffered crucial injuries and after 2 cup runs didn't have the squad strength for the run in.

[Concrete John]

My issue with his Small heath record is that after the cup win they fell into a sort of 'seasons over' attitude as they were in a healthy enough league position.  As manager it was his job to kick enough arses to snap them out of it and avoid relegation, which he either didn't do or wasn't able to do well enough.  We seem to have a similar issue with the whole 'mid table is OK and all we can get', so if we do start slipping can he get us hungry enough to fight our way back?

On the flip side, for 18 months he had them doing as well as I've ever seen - top half and a trophy.

[pauliewalnuts]

Four seasons, four fucking seasons.

Don't any of you stop to think before trotting out the same incorrect line.

1) Relegated in his first half season.
2) Promoted
3) Finidhed 9th, their best in the PL
4) Carling Cup and relegation.

Four seasons.

So still two relegations then. One of which because his team had shot their bolt on the Carling Cup win and thought they could put their feet up after February.

The Blues relegation fight last year was beyond pathetic.

Their "performance" on the last day of the season was particularly gutless.

[not3bad]

Houllier wasn't coming in off the back of two relegations in three seasons.

Neither was Mcleish.

[caster troy]

Ok four seasons, but there is still a chasm between his reputation and that of Houllier when he joined us so I stand by the point I was making.

Chris I admire your optimism and I sincerely hope you are proven to be correct in wanting him to be given a chance, but I just can't see him ever being a success here.

[N'ZMAV]

I wonder what all the Houllier haters think about things these days, glad I wasn't one. I bet most would have him back if they could...

[Merv]

I don't really mind how it's presented - two relegations in three Premier League seasons, or two relegations in four seasons, or even two relegations in two and a half Premier League seasons - McLeish's CV isn't particularly appealing and far away from the track record I thought we'd have been looking for in a manager when we started the process in the summer. The last few months has certainly been a eye-opener for me in terms of how Villa operate.

I recall Blues having one or two injuries in the final quarter of last season (Dann, especially, was a loss) but you'd have been hard-pushed to find many who would have predicted them as relegation fodder in February, or even early April. They really fell away badly, from a seemingly safe position, and McLeish wasn't able to prevent the slide.

[Zhong Yi]

David Cameron should secretly call John Gregory, give him a license to kill with the mission to get his AK47 out of the boot of his car and shoot Alex McLeish.

Mission in the name of the future King of England codenamed 'On His Majestys Sorted Service'.

[Clampy]

I recall Blues having one or two injuries in the final quarter of last season (Dann, especially, was a loss)

Dann is the only one i can think of who was a big loss but they brought in Curtis Davies, Bentley and Martins in the January window.

They should never have gone down on the back of that Cup win.

[villa for life]

I'd say the most worrying thing is that all this negativity becomes a self fulfilling prophecy...

[Chris Jameson]

2 relegations in 4 years is still very, very impressive. Almost as good as finishing 3rd in a two horse race in Scotland.