McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[KRS]

No you cant sack a manager when we're 10th and it would be unfair to sack a manager after only 16 games. The 2 times a team can be judged is half way through the season once all teams have played each other once, and at the end of the season...these both show relative and fair performance in the league table. It just so happens that the first judgement point comes after our next 3 games against Arsenal, Stoke and Chelsea. Where will we be after those 3 games will be a fair reflection in the league table whatever the results of our next 3 games, and then we can judge a little more fairly.

But KRS you said:

"Similarly, if we pick up a few points then it will continue to not look as bad as it is"

I don't get this, if we pick up a few points then surely it will be better than it is? No? It will mean that we aren't the utterly abject mess that you and many others are saying we are. Yes?
It's almost as if you don't want us to pick up those points so you can: a) be proven right and b) get McLeish out.

We are what we are just now, a mid-table team in a state of flux because of circumstances off the field beyond our control, don't go wishing the worst on us so that you can say 'I told you so'.

You're welcome to look through tinted glasses at our performances and results, and welcome to interpret my posts however you like, but in both cases you'd be wrong. You cant get away from the fact that after 16 games, the only teams we have beat this season are Bolton, Norwich, Wigan and Blackburn, and we struggle to have more than a handful of shots on goal and concede possession far too easily.

Obviously I think AM is out of his depth and hes not good enough, but I dont want us to lose games to prove a point. Understand Dave?

[ozzjim]

The trouble is, basically what many are saying is its crap and we hate it, but don't want to upset the 11 millionaires on the pitch while they kick a ball about on the back of the fans love for football.... well.... how utterly British. Lets all have a cup of tea while we are at it, and pat Eck on the back for being a jolly nice chap. He is, and I would love to spend time chatting to him, but having given him 15 games - he has proved every bit as bad as everyone made out. Also, the defeated Eck turned up at the end of March for Blues, and was totally deflated every week to the point he hardly got out the dugout towards the lst few games at Blues according to a couple of season ticket holders I know. He is starting to mirror that here.

On the losing thing, I want Villa to win every game. However, if we are going to lose, I would prefer we ship 6 or 7 and the whole things comes to a head and the fans call for his head than it to rumble on, shit performance after shit performance - and stats of 14 wins in 64 games shows that 4 out of 5 are going to be shit, to be followed by but he is a nice bloke and the poor lads might be drained of confidence if we call for his head. His job is to instill confidence and purpose, their job is to entertain the crowd and get them off their seat, to give them a reason to shout and support. The fans need to find their voice, and ram it home that it is not acceptable, and it will not be tolerated.


This is Aston Villa, and we deserve a whole lot better than this.

[KRS]

Very well said ozzjim *clappy thing*

[taylorsworkrate]

Yep, bang on Mr ozzjim.

[KRS]

Just done the predictor covering the next 3 games...we will be 12th-14th depending on the results of other games. Worst case scenario is 15th if Sunderland pick up more points than expected.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Just done the predictor covering the next 3 games...we will be 12th-14th depending on the results of other games. Worst case scenario is 15th if Sunderland pick up more points than expected.

You're welcome to look through tinted glasses at our performances and results,

What are you wearing then? Blinkers?

[LeeB]

Facebook groups and banners are symptoms of the poxy X Factor Britain we live in. Everyone's got a voice, everyone's got an opinion and if something isn't done about it there and then, it's toys out of the pram time.

Banners make Villa look cheap and the more I hear from the boors who purport to follow our club, the more I want McLeish to stay and succeed.

If you want to see yourselves on television waving your bedsheets, making twats of yourself then go ahead but as far as I'm concerned you're no better than the shower of shite down the road. You are an embarrassment to the glorious name of Aston Villa.

Get a fucking grip and support the team.

Right on brother!

[LeeB]

£3 million, I believe.

On the brightside, it's probably keeping the recievers out of St Andrews.

[brontebilly]

I'm not sure where this sympathy for McLeish lies. As a pretty much broke football club we spent 3m to get him from Birmingham and he and his clown sidekick are probably drawing that again in wages from the club. He is paid to deliver but instead fans are deserting the club in their droves. I hate this oh we will appear small time if the supporters protest, nonsense. It is Aston Villa football club. Supporters from a load of different clubs cant get over how shit we are. Every club would protest if they were playing the football we are playing and with the way the club is heading.

McLeish is a joke frankly but unless serious changes are made at board level replacing the manager wont improve things too much. Seeing as how Lerner will be gracing Villa Park with his presence for the Arsenal game, I think protests should be focused on him.

[mrfuse]

Got to say Brontebilly and Ozzjim are both spot on with their comments

[N'ZMAV]

be the twelth man.... remember this? Where's it gone?

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

be the twelth man.... remember this? Where's it gone?

He's at home spray painting his Mum's bedsheets.

[Hookeysmith]

I used to have as a tag line "They have a different agenda than us"  it was a quote from Eck after we beat the dog shit 5-1 at our place. I was proud that day as it was a clear distinction between them and us - even their manager re affirmed it.
I know that the noses were furious that he made that comment.
Now we are beaten by "giants" like Liverpool (who have not won anything for almost as long as us)
I wonder what Arsenal will be - colusses?

I know all football fans can get their heads up their arses about where they are in the pecking order but if the manager is now condsidering us as no bodies and we dont have the right to be on the same pitch as some teams then what the hell do the players think when they take the field.

Go back to the GH days - he had one of the worst injury set backs i have ever known in my time supporting the villa yet we still tried to play the game the right way. I remember seeing the line up against United and thinking "oh shit" we had a bunch of kids that went out there chests out, heads held high and for 60 minutes ran the fuckers ragged - even Fergiscum said they should have been 6-0 down. No ultimately the result was not great - technically we threw a 2-0 lead away at home - but i remember leaving the ground very proud that my team full of kids had really gave to United
Thats the difference between motivating players and coaching and our boring safety first approach and moaning about lack of players. I grant you losing the basis of the English midfield set up is going to hurt and that falls firmly at lerners door - but the sorry excuse for the shambles we see each game is no ones fault but the managers, whatever team we put out still will have at least 6/7 international players and yet our play and organisation is shocking
And just to reiterate it was all too easy for the media to say our protests were because of where he came from - rubbish it was based on his record for playing dull, unimaginative, cowardly football

And we have got exactly that

[DB]

I'm not sure where this sympathy for McLeish lies. As a pretty much broke football club we spent 3m to get him from Birmingham and he and his clown sidekick are probably drawing that again in wages from the club. He is paid to deliver but instead fans are deserting the club in their droves. I hate this oh we will appear small time if the supporters protest, nonsense. It is Aston Villa football club. Supporters from a load of different clubs cant get over how shit we are. Every club would protest if they were playing the football we are playing and with the way the club is heading.

McLeish is a joke frankly but unless serious changes are made at board level replacing the manager wont improve things too much. Seeing as how Lerner will be gracing Villa Park with his presence for the Arsenal game, I think protests should be focused on him.

I can agree to the other fans can't understand how shit we are. I played footy on Mon eve, players who support other clubs, said how bad we are, with the players we have they couldn't understand it - this was seeing us on TV Sunday.

[mrfuse]

be the twelth man.... remember this? Where's it gone?

We need 11 working men before we can have 12