McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[Witton Warrior]

I quite liked the chorus of "what the fuck is going on?" on sunday. More of that please.

That seemed a reasonable question really.
Even the players (Dunne for one) were throwing their arms up in frustration

[timeoutbigbar]

I don't dislike the man or care at all where he came from.  The football is terrible, and we are sliding down the league, no doubt about it.  We've been bad in the past, but I've rarely seen so little creativity, while the one aspect you would have expected to improve, defending, is possibly worse.  If McLeish is still in charge in two or three years time I really do worry that we'll be playing our football in the Championship.  Time to get rid for me.

[pauliewalnuts]

I like the bloke, i always have done and i suspect the players do as well, but he's done himself no favours with the football he's got us playing. Throw in his track record and where he came from (which should'nt matter) and you have an appointment that should'nt have been made and it's beginning to tell, which is a shame for everyone concerned.

re the football he has us playing (and it's not just something he's done with us, look at Blues for the last four years), if we are going to set out to be a mid table side with mid table ambitions, then it's a lot more acceptable if we get some actual entertainment.

You do not need world class players to be able to at least get the fundamentals of the game - pass and move, for example - right. There are teams in this league who play much better football than us, who have far weaker squads.

People will forgive a lot if they think the manager is trying to do the right thing. The problem with McLeish is that, affable type though he is, the general consensus seems to be that he isn't.

I wonder how many of us with tickets for tomorrow are actually looking forward to it? I know I'm not. It isn't meant to be that way.

My main concern is that, actually, Randy and Faulkner are blissfully unaware of all this, and look at the table and think everything is going pretty well.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm not looking forward to tomorrow. There's a part of me that's tempted not to go.

[KRS]

I would like to take issue with these type of excuses for not releiving AM of his duties...

I honestly think Randy will let us get relegated before sacking AM, he just won't sack him, he would look such an idiot.

Personally I dont think he would look an idiot...he would look like an owner who has admitted that he made a mistake and I would have a great deal more respect for the man.

[JUAN PABLO]

I have a few people actually say to me ' I though he would do alright for you    , but hes actually out of his depth and its the worse football I think Ive ever seen Villa play '

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I quite liked the chorus of "what the fuck is going on?" on sunday. More of that please.

That seemed a reasonable question really.
Even the players (Dunne for one) were throwing their arms up in frustration

I don't want us to be singing negative stuff. I want us playing well and trying to win.
Dunne's reaction on Sunday said it all, for the fans as well as a few players, some who seem to be doing a half decent job but others who either couldn't give a fuck or are being very badly managed.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Yes were 10th but we are fucking shite, I hate watching my team at the minute, I've not been down since bolton in the cup and I won't because its not enjoyable and its a waste of my hard earned money.

Why wait till were in the bottom 3 to protest? Flipping well do it now, let's protest against Randy while were at it because he's clearly given up

[TonyD]

Yes were 10th but we are fucking shite, I hate watching my team at the minute, I've not been down since bolton in the cup and I won't because its not enjoyable and its a waste of my hard earned money.

Why wait till were in the bottom 3 to protest? Flipping well do it now, let's protest against Randy while were at it because he's clearly given up

Well said.

[NeilH]

He looked and sounded a broken man against Liverpool. I feel sorry for him. He is clearly out of his depth.

That was my impression too and if he is exhibiting a defeatist attitude, how will that look to the players. He seems almost frozen by fear, a fear of not losing, a fear that the moment we lose the pressure is ratcheted up one notch further.

I've said it before and will say it again, we can protest and protest till we are blue in the face, but the board are not going to budge on this one, because they clearly saw and still see something in him that we do not. If anyone thinks that a multi-millionaire is going to back down after making a controversial and clearly personal managerial choice because we don't like it, then you are sadly deluded.

The only option that we have as fans is to simply not go and even then there will still be enough season ticket holders and devotees to ensure that the club ticks over nicely whilst not pulling up trees.

Oh and one final negative thought, I've heard plenty about the '12th man' and getting behind the team, but does anyone truly believe it is going to make that much of a difference to the current set of players that we have. I can't see a rousing Holte End tune making much of a difference to our disinterested and poorly organised lot......... Sorry, but its all rather hopeless right now.

[JUAN PABLO]

Its alright protesting but will Lerner actually notice  .

[KRS]

"10th in the league table" is also a very poor excuse. I said a few weeks ago that the table doesnt show the full story and a few more losses over the next few weeks will give a more realistic look to our league position. Similarly, if we pick up a few points then it will continue to not look as bad as it is, and any protests will look futile in the eyes of the media and a section of our own support.

Look at our results and how close we are to 15th place...relegation wont happen because we're fortunate to have 3 worse teams than us this season, but just about staying up because other teams are worse than us isnt and should never be acceptable for Aston Villa.

[TonyD]

Its alright protesting but will Lerner actually notice  .

Get the press to notice then he will.

[Kevin Dawson]

Yes, I don't want McCleish, but protests, banners and singing during the game will just drain any confidence the lads have left. Sing our hearts out FOR THE VILLA, and something good MIGHT just happen.

[brian green]

If we get relegated the spin Faulkner will put on it is that we have the best manager to get us back into the Premiership.   The wages bill stripped down to the bare bones, the parachute money and a set of numbers which can be crunched to show that we can survive on average crowds of 25,000 will be all that matters.

The quality of the football, the morale of the fans, the quality of the players will be irrelevant because the books will balance.

The only thing which is going to blow out McLeish is the sale of the club to somebody for whom the money is a secondary consideration.   Simple as that.