McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[bertlambshank]

Same colour boots.

[TonyD]

Support the team as the game is played.  But before, at half time and at final whistle I think the fans who have made the effort to attend the match should be able to stamp and shout as much as they see fit.

[luke25]

There was a couple of chants around me on sunday including "my mom could do a better job"

Were these the same idiots who were booing Jose Enrique for the first 10 minutes?

I could'nt get my head around that, I was trying to think if he'd got previous with us or something then realised it was because they thought it was Downing.

It was the boots that did it.

Thats understandable, I was constantly getting Ash and Downing mixed up when they kept wearing the same boots.

[Damo70]

I'm not sure what's worse. Booing Enrique by mistake because of the boots or about ten years back when Luke Chadwick got booed for being blonde like Beckham.

[Nev]

From the minute he was appointed the clock started ticking.

The only thing that will save him is good form, good results, half decent perfomances and a positive attitude towards games against anyone other than relegation fodder. And that looks light years away.

[ktvillan]

Already small pockets of anti AM songs have started  - how long before this grows and grows to a point where RL has to at the very least come out and do / say something

Same as is always done. The sheep stay silent until enough around them are bold enough to join in.
I am totally against an action that will guarantee we lose and make us look a laughing stock like Blackburn.

Well if you know any actions that will guarantee a win I'm all for it. Although Blackburn have also won games with the boo boys present.

I believe Blackburn fans are protesting over owners who don't seem to know what they are doing, selling their best players but not reinvesting the money properly and appointing a manager who is well out of his depth.

Full support from the whole crowd throughout the game would help but we never get that, even when we are playing well.

Not sure why you think Blackburn are a laughing stock DCF.  The Venkeys are trying their best make them such,  and for me it's fair play to the fans for sticking up for the long term future of their club. The best forum to get publicity for their message is during the games themselves.  What's more embarrassing,   sticking up for your club like them,  or sitting there clapping like a performing seal while the club gets shafted up the wrong'un?   I'm not sure if the the instigators of the 1968 revolution would have been inspired to book Digbeth civic hall if Villa fans had continued rattling their rattles and waving their scarves during some of our more abject performances, instead of stamping their feet, slow hand clapping and calling for the board to go. As I've said before, if you are happy to be fed shite without complaint, you will be.

[luke25]

I'm not sure what's worse. Booing Enrique by mistake because of the boots or about ten years back when Luke Chadwick got booed for being blonde like Beckham.

My Utd supporting mate loves bringing this up.

[nick harper]

A protest would be wasted.The Browns fans have been doing it for years.

Slightly different here I think. Not sure Lerner will close his ears if he fears the guaranteed £60m per annum income is about to go down the drain. Money is louder than any of us fans.

[ozzjim]

Already small pockets of anti AM songs have started  - how long before this grows and grows to a point where RL has to at the very least come out and do / say something

Same as is always done. The sheep stay silent until enough around them are bold enough to join in.
I am totally against an action that will guarantee we lose and make us look a laughing stock like Blackburn.

Well if you know any actions that will guarantee a win I'm all for it. Although Blackburn have also won games with the boo boys present.

I believe Blackburn fans are protesting over owners who don't seem to know what they are doing, selling their best players but not reinvesting the money properly and appointing a manager who is well out of his depth.

Full support from the whole crowd throughout the game would help but we never get that, even when we are playing well.

Not sure why you think Blackburn are a laughing stock DCF.  The Venkeys are trying their best make them such,  and for me it's fair play to the fans for sticking up for the long term future of their club. The best forum to get publicity for their message is during the games themselves.  What's more embarrassing,   sticking up for your club like them,  or sitting there clapping like a performing seal while the club gets shafted up the wrong'un?   I'm not sure if the the instigators of the 1968 revolution would have been inspired to book Digbeth civic hall if Villa fans had continued rattling their rattles and waving their scarves during some of our more abject performances, instead of stamping their feet, slow hand clapping and calling for the board to go. As I've said before, if you are happy to be fed shite without complaint, you will be.

I agree KT. I have not gone down this season, mainly due to the direction of the club and cost not being justified, but were I down there I would happily sing for him to be sacked, just how I was not willing to join in anti-Houllier ones because I believed in him.

For me I don't buy into this nonsense about having to support the team. If they are your mates park side or your sons school side yes, of course, but they are grown men, being paid 2 million pounds each plus a year, managed by a man earning 2 million pounds ish a year. Now, if paying customers are not happy, they have every right to boo, sing and chant about the state of affairs, as without the fans country wide football would not exist. Going 2-0 down at home in 15 minutes did not bring about any more than apathy on Sunday, and it is a sure fire sign of where we are going when the fans are too polite to voice their opinion. I would bet if you canvassed every Villa fan in the ground, 90% would want him sacked. Doing nothing about it as fans is for me way more embarrassing than singing for him to get the sack. We might as well bend over.

[Chris Smith]

There was a 'Had Enough, Houllier Out' banner

The Holte End sang "Fuck off Houllier, the Villa is ours"

The Holte End sang "Sacked in the morning, you're getting sacked in the morning"

The Holte End sang "You don't know what you're doing"

And the board still backed Houllier.

The fans outside Villa Park sang "We don't want McLeish, say we don't want McLeish"

They had banners saying "Stay the Eck away from Villa Park"

17,000 Villa fans joined a Facebook group called "Aston Villa fans we don't want Alex McLeish"

And the board still appointed McLeish.

Frankly, the board do not care what the fans think.

Perfect summing up of the Board's attitude. Lerner attends a game so few times he's out of touch. Faulkner does as he's told, as for Gen Krulak? A complete joke!

No, it isn't. None of the knobs listed in the post spoke for me, it's just a minority of impatient attention seekers and the board are right to ignore them.

[TimTheVillain]

Q. to Chris Smith

Are you happy with what's going on at Villa ?

Do you think we're making progress in the right direction ?

Can you see a Chairman and Board who have the ability to bring some success to Villa ?

[Merv]

I'd never want to see anyone subjected to abuse, but I don't see the problem with fans showing concern for the direction of the club - I've noticed, since the Spurs game, that Villa are being discussed in depth and frequently in the media; on the radio and TV, and the overwhelming theme is the state of the team and the situation at the club. I've heard pundits and journalists and former players all expressing their dismay at what they've been watching and while I don't agree with the 'worst Villa team I've seen' quotes that have been bandied about by some, I am worried. I don't believe that's unjust moaning.

It's up to the manager and the board to turn the situation around.

[Villafirst]

There was a 'Had Enough, Houllier Out' banner

The Holte End sang "Fuck off Houllier, the Villa is ours"

The Holte End sang "Sacked in the morning, you're getting sacked in the morning"

The Holte End sang "You don't know what you're doing"

And the board still backed Houllier.

The fans outside Villa Park sang "We don't want McLeish, say we don't want McLeish"

They had banners saying "Stay the Eck away from Villa Park"

17,000 Villa fans joined a Facebook group called "Aston Villa fans we don't want Alex McLeish"

And the board still appointed McLeish.

Frankly, the board do not care what the fans think.

Perfect summing up of the Board's attitude. Lerner attends a game so few times he's out of touch. Faulkner does as he's told, as for Gen Krulak? A complete joke!

No, it isn't. None of the knobs listed in the post spoke for me, it's just a minority of impatient attention seekers and the board are right to ignore them.

I see, so your happy with Shit football, players who go shopping on match-days, selling the best players year-on-year, no transfer funds, a wafer thin squad, a crap manager, an inept board, dwindling gates? I could go on.

[Chris Smith]

A: to Tim.

Protests after a third of the season when we're 10th in the league will make those taking part, and by association the rest of us, look daft.

[john e]

i'd love Mcliesh to leave and put a manager in that i want and agree with, and thats the nub 'that i want' we all want different things,
 i mean look at Moyes he was to many the chosen one for Villa, yet in my view the football on display would be much the same as we have already and probably around the same league position,

we think we are crap, have you seen where Everton are in the league table, below us, same go's for Hughes and everyone else like them, they are all very similar in the way they play the game, and unless we take a risk and it comes of we could just be going round in circles with someone else.

i believe there are managers that just happen fit a club and no one knows why it just happens, when they move on to bigger things they just cant recreate what they did before, we need one of those but you can never tell who it will be untill it happens,
 maybe you have to take a risk, which has as much chance of failure than of success, maybe AM was Lerners 'risk' which isnt paying of.

yes i would want Mcliesh to go, but if it meant another clone coming to VP in the shape of Moyes, Hughes, Allardyce, Pullis etc i'd rather just stick with what we have got and get behind him.

i would kill for a Holloway, Keegan, Martinez, Lambert, Rodgers, Robinson but thats the problem, its what i want, not what would please everybody else, it all become very subjective,
 so in reply to the question of Mcliesh out ?
my answer is a very selfish one,   Yes if the next man is the one i want.  if not No