Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[l_mckay]

I couldn't believe my eyes at how shit we were today. The amount of times a Villa player gave the ball straight to a Liverpool player when under no pressure was highly embarrasing - school kids could pass better than that! What is wrong with the training and tactics? 40k per week some of these useless twats are earning for that garbage! Fuck off Lerner - you are a complete joke appointing McLeish. Sell up and let's have someone in who'll invest in the team and appoint a decent Manager - you haven't got a clue!!

     

AGREED!!!

[Hoppo]

Just got in after a session.. needed it!! Collins Warnock  Hutton Petrov and Heskey were garbage today no leadership at all. Were shit at the basics. Im worried sick! Toronto Villa im thinking the same. Who you thinking of?

[rob_bridge]

Too many good posts to reply to. Brian - great great post. Add Ian Taylor, Staunton and Spink to those who didn't like to lose.  Ooo Eck's interview a disgrace. Strange though I never thought Craig Bellamy could be surpassed as the most punchable face in football - however Charlie Adam does surpasses him.
Houllier's team would never come back from a goal down. However until the first goal we were never beaten. Unlike now.

[rob_bridge]

That said not sure how many Premiership or European Cups Liverpool won under Houllier's  stewardship though. (Zero) Watching MOTD2 with Liverpool sychophants - apparently we made Jordan Henderson look good. At least bindippers can console themselves in being real title contenders again. Under Houllier they won team of the year? Beeb are so pro Liverpool it is embarrasing

[OzVilla]

They've never been any different - remember the nausiating 'Liverpool in Europe' programmes we had to endure.

The fact they beat us 2-0 is not a pointer to any Title credentials - just that they've beaten a shit, defeatist side who give up before a ball is kicked.

[Mazrim]

Average Liverpool team strolls to victory at shit Villa team.
Meh indeed.

[Hoppo]

Darren Bent was out shopping today! Apologising on twitter.

[SteveD]

The writing was on the wall when the young manager of Wigan Athletic, yes that's Wigan Athletic, didn't think there was enough of the "bright future" to go with the "proud history" bit and turned us down over the summer. To compete in the PL (that's compete, s not just tread water and hope there are a few teams worse than us) you need to (a) stop shipping out your best players, season by season and (b) employ a manager who at least organises the resources he has and plays positively. McLeish is a convenient fall guy for all that is bad about us at the moment. He is always only, given his history across the city, a couple of defeats away from calls for the sack. Nevertheless he is ultra-cautious, while seemingly unable to get us to do the basics - either defend or be a threat at set-pieces (O'Neil's great strength). For me the worst, almost criminal illustration of why we are staring at the abyss was a free kick late on, 2-0 behind, and we only had three men in their box. Staggering. We tried to play a passing game today. But not one of them could pass. Inept. Bannan and Delph are way out of their depth at this level. Downing showed them all how to do it. And we booed him. But can you really blame him for leaving?

[Archie]

Same awful defense that regularly concedes silly goals on set pieces. Absolute lack of consistency upfront. And we simply didn't have a midfield, that should be the engine of the team (apart from the good will of Albrighton).

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

A lot of the problem is confidence as there does not seem to be a system. Combine that with low quality players. Delph -Hutton-Warnnock
Were terrible. Control, vision and passing were disgraceful at this level. What's even more worrying is we don't look much better with two England internationals. Bent & Gabby !!

[Archie]

Excellent post Brian. And this time I have to disagree with Frank as I think that not only Clark, but Albrighton, Herd, Bannan and Gary Gardner are exciting prospects and could become good players, of full P.L.  standards, if we had a manager that is able to work with the youngsters and to help them to grow. 

[frank]

Excellent post Brian. And this time I have to disagree with Frank as I think that not only Clark, but Albrighton, Herd, Bannan and Gary Gardner are exciting prospects and could become good players, of full P.L.  standards, if we had a manager that is able to work with the youngsters and to help them to grow.

You could be right in suggesting that it's not the youngsters that are at fault but AM for not using them properly, but whichever way you look at it they haven't impressed this season, with the exception of Herd. Delfouneso is never going to make it at the top level, I fear, and demonstrated that again today. Inexplicably, Clark isn't being given a chance. Albrighton has had one good game; it seems to me that defences have got him worked out. Bannan has been poor and has lost the ability or confidence to produce the defence-splitting pass (or any sort of pass for that matter). Weimann didn't have enough time to show anything today. Gardner's been sent to Coventry.

[Vanilla]

We played the game as though pool had won before we even stepped on the pitch.

We were abject from start to finish.

[Karlos96]

We were awful today could easily have been 6 I can't believe how bad we are.  The thing is I knew before I left what it was going to be like and I know exactly what to expect on Wednesday night.

The lack of movement and passing was horrendous we are shockingly bad.  I remember reading an article by Wenger a few years ago where he was talking about how Arsenal play and when anyone player has the ball they play so that he should always have 3 options where he can make a pass.  You watch our lot and there is literally no options it's pathetic at times.

The saddest thing for me is the fans just seem to have accepted this as our fate.  There were people around me today laughing and joking at the performance, it just hurts seeing what we have become.

[cdbearsfan]

After a shit day I went the pub to cheer myself up. For my troubles some twat decided, for no reason, to punch me. I am now covered in blood and have a broken nose. What a brilliant day.