After 63 mins my 8 year old son said " can we go Dad?" and I said "why mate?". He said " because I am bored" and he was right. When I was 8 I couldn't wait to go the match - 2 years ago when he was 6he couldnt wait to go either . In 2 years football has changed - and we are the club that has suffered most. We are in the eye of the storm - and it hurts.
Just got home and my son still has another seventy odd miles to go. I will give you both of our views, I think we have earned the right to comment.We are totally leaderless on the pitch. Not one single player wants to give any support or encouragement to his team mates. They clearly do not understand what the manager tells them or they cannot do what he tells them. Every team over the years had had its player who hates to lose and who will go around the field trying to put some fire and backbone into the others. We have no Allan Evans, no Peter Withe, no Paul Merson, no Kevin Richardson, no Andy Townsend, no John Gidman, no Vic Crowe - just a bunch of blokes who seem to hate each other.That is my son's view.I have come to the conclusion that our players are just not good enough. Without the three good players we have - Given, Bent and Gabby, we are a second rate team. We can scratch a result against other poor teams but against better players we are woefully exposed.I think we have deluded ourselves - to ease the pain of losing Cahill, Barry, Milner, Young and Downing - that our youngsters are much better than they really are. The only one I think can make the grade is Clark and he never gets a game. Bannan, Delfouesno, Albrighton, Herd, Weimann and the rest are not going to drive us into the top six of the Premiership and will more likely see us drop into the bottom six. Hutton and Warnock are not Premiership quality and neither is Collins. Dunne could be but gives the impression he hates the club and cannot wait to move on. Delph has failed to live up to early expectations and desperately needs a steadying influence which is not there. See "leadership" above. Jenas and Ireland were financial black holes waiting to be fallen into. Guzan reminds me of Burridge and those of you who remember Budgie will know exactly what I mean. Heskey was finished as a Premiership force before we bought him.Add to the players who are not good enough add a manager who is not good enough, and I am too weary to join in troll games about the man, and the reason why days like today and Spurs and Man U and Bolton in the cup are happening becomes blindingly obvious.In all departments, including the board, we are not good enough.Turning to McLeish's interview, it was no more than public hand washing. His "giants" comment was as offensive to the fans as anything uttered by Houllier, but the little phrase which I picked up on was early in his string of excuses when he said "the fans tell you to do this and to do that..." he is clearly assuming the defend yourself at all times stance as far as the fans are concerned and I think we shall look back on today's game and see it as the day the fan's patience with him ran out. One more display like that today and he is going to wonder what hit him.
Quote from: Fin Feds Dad on December 18, 2011, 07:51:56 PMAfter 63 mins my 8 year old son said " can we go Dad?" and I said "why mate?". He said " because I am bored" and he was right. When I was 8 I couldn't wait to go the match - 2 years ago when he was 6he couldnt wait to go either . In 2 years football has changed - and we are the club that has suffered most. We are in the eye of the storm - and it hurts. This is a good post. It's hard to get your head around just how different the club is today. Christmas 2009 now seems light years away. Just two years ago we were going to Old Trafford and coming home with three points. We were contenders. We were dynamic, explosive, exciting and Villa Park was packed to the rafters regardless of the opposition.What a turnaround, and the worst thing is nobody with any authority seems to care. It's hurtful beyond belief.
The Mcleish interview clearly showed he does not have a clue what to do,i think it showed a man who knows he is out of his depth. The only player that we really missed today was Gabby, we have isolated Bent all season and the only other one missing is a young kid learning his craft. I hate to say this but when we were still two down half way through the second half in the murky depths of my brain i was thinking would it benefit us in the long run for Liverpool to put another five past us. A seven nil home defeat would have made even Randy a little nervous about the future but two nil doesnt have the same impact.
I actually felt sorry for Delph today.At least he tried to be positive.Quite a few times he did some good things , got in some good positions, but because of lack of movement around him , he got caught with the ball/gave the ball away.I did'nt even realise Petrov was on the pitch in the first 20 mins in the 2nd half.......a disgraceful performance of a lack of leadership from the captain. McL has to take responsibility for the constant negative comments he keeps making."Giants of the game", and saying we are the underdogs before the game , are completely unacceptable from a manager of AVFC.Agree with you on the other players, but not Petrov. Delph was awful today by the way People complain about Huttons tackling, we need a few more who can do that, we need a few Bellamys.Dunne, Warnock, Heskey, Petrov, Collins, don't give a fuck about AVFC, McL shouild get rid now, or go himself.
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