January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread

[N'ZMAV]

He doesn't quite hoof it as good as Mellberg did.

[Hookeysmith]

He doesn't quite hoof it as good as Mellberg did.

Funny innit as we all loved mellberg - even with the hoofs

Maybe it was because when it came tyo basic defending and marking Collins could not lick his boots.
When Collins came i thought good deal for a 3rd option for Carlos and Dunne - somehow he managed to get 1st choice and now like a limpet we cannot shift the useless git

[ROBBO]

I think the Fonz would have been getting a regular start by now if the manager and coaches thought he was up to it. Who do you drop to give him a run of games, Gabby,Bent? he's nowhere near their standard.

[taylorsworkrate]

I think the Fonz would have been getting a regular start by now if the manager and coaches thought he was up to it. Who do you drop to give him a run of games, Gabby,Bent? he's nowhere near their standard.

I don't think Fonz has shown anything that remotely suggests he is going to be a premiership quality forward.

[pauliewalnuts]

Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I agree, plus when under pressure I'd much rather see him thump it fifty yards down the pitch than risk getting caught in possession. The problem is he's been outed as a "hoofer" by the mob so he can give 10 straightforward passes but it will be the next one that goes long that will be remembered.

Can you not manage a post these days without some provocative nonsense like this in it, Chris?

Is there really any need?

[Rick_avfc]

All players are capable of making simple passes so one is saying that but ive seen Collins on numerous occasions where he hasn't been under no pressure what so ever and has decided to hoof it up field thus resulting in the opposition gaining possession.

[Rick_avfc]

Just read we have been linked to Rhys Williams of Boro.  Haven't heard or know anything of him to comment really.  Anyone know about him?

Although the headline of this article says Albion keep tabs on williams, we are mentioned, along with other clubs, who are interested in him.

http://tinyurl.com/7zb2b6d

[Chris Smith]

Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I agree, plus when under pressure I'd much rather see him thump it fifty yards down the pitch than risk getting caught in possession. The problem is he's been outed as a "hoofer" by the mob so he can give 10 straightforward passes but it will be the next one that goes long that will be remembered.

Can you not manage a post these days without some provocative nonsense like this in it, Chris?

Is there really any need?

It isn't provocative It's perfectly true, he's been dubbed a hoofer and so in the eyes of many that's all he ever does. Regardless that most of the time he'll pass it to the full back or across to Dunne as soon as he hits one forward that's all he ever does.

[Mazrim]

I think the Fonz would have been getting a regular start by now if the manager and coaches thought he was up to it. Who do you drop to give him a run of games, Gabby,Bent? he's nowhere near their standard.

No, because he's 20 years old and at a similar age a far better footballer than Gabby or Bent. The difference is they had their chance to play regularly at his age. How do we know how good he can be if he doesn't play?
He should have had the game time Heskey has had for instance. Then we'd have a better idea.

[pauliewalnuts]

Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I agree, plus when under pressure I'd much rather see him thump it fifty yards down the pitch than risk getting caught in possession. The problem is he's been outed as a "hoofer" by the mob so he can give 10 straightforward passes but it will be the next one that goes long that will be remembered.

Can you not manage a post these days without some provocative nonsense like this in it, Chris?

Is there really any need?

It isn't provocative It's perfectly true, he's been dubbed a hoofer and so in the eyes of many that's all he ever does. Regardless that most of the time he'll pass it to the full back or across to Dunne as soon as he hits one forward that's all he ever does.

So, why not say "the many" instead of "the mob", which is just a bit puerile and provocative?

It's possible for a large body of people to take a different opinion than yourself on something without them being "a mob".

[Dave]

Anyone else think that Collins will go to Spurs?  Should villa be looking at inlcuding one of their players in that deal?  Krancjar? Bassong?  just a though thats all

It'd be hilarious if he did, I struggle to think of many players less suited to Spurs' passing game than Collins.

To be fair, it's not as if Michael Dawson is Franz Beckenbauer.

[Chris Smith]

Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I agree, plus when under pressure I'd much rather see him thump it fifty yards down the pitch than risk getting caught in possession. The problem is he's been outed as a "hoofer" by the mob so he can give 10 straightforward passes but it will be the next one that goes long that will be remembered.

Can you not manage a post these days without some provocative nonsense like this in it, Chris?

Is there really any need?

It isn't provocative It's perfectly true, he's been dubbed a hoofer and so in the eyes of many that's all he ever does. Regardless that most of the time he'll pass it to the full back or across to Dunne as soon as he hits one forward that's all he ever does.

So, why not say "the many" instead of "the mob", which is just a bit puerile and provocative?

It's possible for a large body of people to take a different opinion than yourself on something without them being "a mob".

I think mob is the right word, because it's unthinking. It's repeated without any reference to the facts. Collins isn't the best on the ball by any stretch of the imagination but he's Pele compared to Cuellar who is often lionised on here.

[PaulTheVillan]

The last 2 games I've watched, it's only took us 7 seconds from kick off for Collins to just whack the ball forward, totally losing posession.

[saunders_heroes]

Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I agree, plus when under pressure I'd much rather see him thump it fifty yards down the pitch than risk getting caught in possession. The problem is he's been outed as a "hoofer" by the mob so he can give 10 straightforward passes but it will be the next one that goes long that will be remembered.

Can you not manage a post these days without some provocative nonsense like this in it, Chris?

Is there really any need?

It isn't provocative It's perfectly true, he's been dubbed a hoofer and so in the eyes of many that's all he ever does. Regardless that most of the time he'll pass it to the full back or across to Dunne as soon as he hits one forward that's all he ever does.

I dont follow the crowd on here, I make my own mind up about players, and whilst I think Collins can defend well (even with the odd mistake thrown in) he most certainly hoofs the ball as much as any Villa player I can remember.

[Mazrim]

To me Collins' biggest weakness isn't aimless hoofing, although that drives me up the wall whoever does it. It's his tendency to get sucked to the ball.

As long as we get somebody better in I'd be fine with him going.
But he's a decent enough centre half and can we get somebody better in? Sell him and get Samba.
And by that I mean do a silly latin dance.