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Offline Concrete John

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2100 on: January 10, 2012, 10:18:43 AM »
A quick scan shows 20 starts and 38 subs appearances with a return of 10 goals.

Quick question - how many of those 10 goals came in the PL as opposed to against lesser teams in the cups?  Genuine question and I can remember him getting at least 1 PL goal, but I just can't see where he'll get this run people want him to have as he won't get in up front ahead of Gabby or Bent or wide ahead of N'Zogbia or Super Marc. 

As I said yesterday, I think the best thing for him would be to move on.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2101 on: January 10, 2012, 10:24:08 AM »
I definitely think both Fonz and Weimann need another loan spell preferably in the PL to see if they are good enough at this level.  Not sure which PL teams would take a punt on them though. 

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2102 on: January 10, 2012, 10:27:25 AM »
A quick scan shows 20 starts and 38 subs appearances with a return of 10 goals.

Quick question - how many of those 10 goals came in the PL as opposed to against lesser teams in the cups?  Genuine question and I can remember him getting at least 1 PL goal, but I just can't see where he'll get this run people want him to have as he won't get in up front ahead of Gabby or Bent or wide ahead of N'Zogbia or Super Marc. 

As I said yesterday, I think the best thing for him would be to move on.

In the PL he has made 10 starts, 29 sub appearances, and scored 3 goals.

It's not very nice to raise doubts like this, but I've not really seen anything from him that makes me think he'll make it.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2103 on: January 10, 2012, 10:56:26 AM »
I've seen plenty but mainly in the academy and reserves, granted but then there isnt much else to go on. He needs a run of games to settle in and show his stuff, like Gabby had, but I fear he won't get it here at the moment.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2104 on: January 10, 2012, 11:14:36 AM »
Anyone else think that Collins will go to Spurs?  Should villa be looking at inlcuding one of their players in that deal?  Krancjar? Bassong?  just a though thats all

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2105 on: January 10, 2012, 11:16:07 AM »
Anyone else think that Collins will go to Spurs?  Should villa be looking at inlcuding one of their players in that deal?  Krancjar? Bassong?  just a though thats all

It'd be hilarious if he did, I struggle to think of many players less suited to Spurs' passing game than Collins.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2106 on: January 10, 2012, 11:20:42 AM »
Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2107 on: January 10, 2012, 11:22:22 AM »
Kranjcar and Bassong for Collins. Deal.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2108 on: January 10, 2012, 11:22:47 AM »
Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I'm not at all convinced at that. He pretty much always looks for the pointless hoof, regardless of options around him.

Straight from kick off at Bristol Rovers was a good example, we kick off, ball is played back to Collins, under no pressure, team mates all around him, he just hoofs it 60 yards

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2109 on: January 10, 2012, 11:26:42 AM »
Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.
I'm not at all convinced at that. He pretty much always looks for the pointless hoof, regardless of options around him.


Straight from kick off at Bristol Rovers was a good example, we kick off, ball is played back to Collins, under no pressure, team mates all around him, he just hoofs it 60 yards

He done it recently in a prem game.  If my memeory serves me correctly, which I doubt, I think it was against Liverpool.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2110 on: January 10, 2012, 11:28:03 AM »
I'm a Fonz fan, heard that Norwich wanted him on loan for the second half of the season which would be perfect for us to see how he does. The Robbie Keane deal in total is about £400k that includes wages, loan fee & insurance.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2111 on: January 10, 2012, 11:29:19 AM »
The Robbie Keane deal in total is about £400k that includes wages, loan fee & insurance.

That's a more reasonable figure, if correct.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2112 on: January 10, 2012, 11:29:24 AM »
Collins always hoofs. He thinks he's Beckham.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2113 on: January 10, 2012, 11:30:31 AM »
I'm not convinced by Delfouneso, but, to be fair to him, he obviously needs more playing time. I like his direct style. But, he doesn't have that much pace. He needs to do something special in 2012, or he'll just slip off the radar.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2114 on: January 10, 2012, 11:36:45 AM »
Collins is more than capable of playing the simple little passes out of defence.  His issue with us is a mixture of poor movement to give him these options and him getting overly ambitious with balls he's not capable of playing.

I agree, plus when under pressure I'd much rather see him thump it fifty yards down the pitch than risk getting caught in possession. The problem is he's been outed as a "hoofer" by the mob so he can give 10 straightforward passes but it will be the next one that goes long that will be remembered.

 


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