January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread

[Clampy]

Clampy I think they would have sold him sooner if clubs had met their asking price

That's my point. The likes are Arsenal and Man Utd were maybe not convinced that he was good enough for the kind of money Bolton wanted.

[JUAN PABLO]

AMC just been on radio again   . I have to sell If I want to buy ...

Those acceptable to go:-
Heskey.
Collins or Cuellar, but not both.
Beye.
Ireland.

Would've said Ireland up until the Arsenal game.  Get his head right (yes, yes I know) and he's the spark we lack. 

I agree , It would be stupid to get rid of Ireland for hardly any money now, whatever his wages are , when you have the like of Beye still here .

Beye isnt ever going to come good but Ireland has shown later hes prepared to have a go .

Get the money for Collins and keep cuellar I reckon.

[Ryu]

Yeah that's my take on it as well. So now they're probably selling him for a little below what he's worth because they tried to get a little more. They should have took what they could in the summer and signed a couple of decent mid table sort of players.

Anyway, is their actually a single, creditable, Villa transfer rumour?

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That’s different from what he said the other day, which was essentially “if I’m to bring one in, then the wage bill must be balanced”.

[Greg N'Ash]

Clampy I think they would have sold him sooner if clubs had met their asking price

That's my point. The likes are Arsenal and Man Utd were maybe not convinced that he was good enough for the kind of money Bolton wanted.

end of the day there's only about 5 clubs that could have afforded him. even the 7m now probably  rules out the rest. A year ago chelsea didn't need a centre half, they do now

[Greg N'Ash]

That’s different from what he said the other day, which was essentially “if I’m to bring one in, then the wage bill must be balanced”.

the wage bill thing is just a red herring. its all about lerner making a profit on the good signings to pay for the losses of the rubbish signings. If you were trying to just lower the wage bill you'd obviously just get rid of the shite even if it was at a major loss. We've still got shite while the good players have been flogged.

[JUAN PABLO]

Clampy I think they would have sold him sooner if clubs had met their asking price

That's my point. The likes are Arsenal and Man Utd were maybe not convinced that he was good enough for the kind of money Bolton wanted.

end of the day there's only about 5 clubs that could have afforded him. even the 7m now probably  rules out the rest. A year ago chelsea didn't need a centre half, they do now

they bought that brazillian 26 million one

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That’s different from what he said the other day, which was essentially “if I’m to bring one in, then the wage bill must be balanced”.

the wage bill thing is just a red herring. its all about lerner making a profit on the good signings to pay for the losses of the rubbish signings. If you were trying to just lower the wage bill you'd obviously just get rid of the shite even if it was at a major loss. We've still got shite while the good players have been flogged.

Well, surely that’s because it’s very easy to sell an Ashley Young, but very difficult to find somebody to buy players like Beye or Heskey, who are over 30 and on over 50,000 per week?

[Greg N'Ash]

That’s different from what he said the other day, which was essentially “if I’m to bring one in, then the wage bill must be balanced”.

the wage bill thing is just a red herring. its all about lerner making a profit on the good signings to pay for the losses of the rubbish signings. If you were trying to just lower the wage bill you'd obviously just get rid of the shite even if it was at a major loss. We've still got shite while the good players have been flogged.

Well, surely that’s because it’s very easy to sell an Ashley Young, but very difficult to find somebody to buy players like Beye or Heskey, who are over 30 and on over 50,000 per week?

you'd just pay 'em off in that case. What is the point of us having beye in the squad? he's never going to play. We could have sold him to a championship club and offered to pay half his wages for the season. Still would have cost us less than currently

[JUAN PABLO]

That’s different from what he said the other day, which was essentially “if I’m to bring one in, then the wage bill must be balanced”.

the wage bill thing is just a red herring. its all about lerner making a profit on the good signings to pay for the losses of the rubbish signings. If you were trying to just lower the wage bill you'd obviously just get rid of the shite even if it was at a major loss. We've still got shite while the good players have been flogged.

Well, surely that’s because it’s very easy to sell an Ashley Young, but very difficult to find somebody to buy players like Beye or Heskey, who are over 30 and on over 50,000 per week?

yes and Young wants to go ( cant blame him ) and those two cant believe how easy and lucky they are .

[dave.woodhall]

you'd just pay 'em off in that case. What is the point of us having beye in the squad? he's never going to play. We could have sold him to a championship club and offered to pay half his wages for the season. Still would have cost us less than currently

Do you really not think we've tried to do that?

[Greg N'Ash]

you'd just pay 'em off in that case. What is the point of us having beye in the squad? he's never going to play. We could have sold him to a championship club and offered to pay half his wages for the season. Still would have cost us less than currently

Do you really not think we've tried to do that?

Not really. I think the wage bill is a smokescreen and it suits the club to point out the likes of beye as a reason why they can't spend

[dave.woodhall]

you'd just pay 'em off in that case. What is the point of us having beye in the squad? he's never going to play. We could have sold him to a championship club and offered to pay half his wages for the season. Still would have cost us less than currently

Do you really not think we've tried to do that?

Not really. I think the wage bill is a smokescreen and it suits the club to point out the likes of beye as a reason why they can't spend

Yes, of course. They're happy to keep Beye on the wagebill just so they don't have to spend his wages on someone else. Presumably on orders from the President Emeritus's office

[Greg N'Ash]

you'd just pay 'em off in that case. What is the point of us having beye in the squad? he's never going to play. We could have sold him to a championship club and offered to pay half his wages for the season. Still would have cost us less than currently

Do you really not think we've tried to do that?

Not really. I think the wage bill is a smokescreen and it suits the club to point out the likes of beye as a reason why they can't spend

Yes, of course. They're happy to keep Beye on the wagebill just so they don't have to spend his wages on someone else. Presumably on orders from the President Emeritus's office

look dave, you've got a player who's not worth a sausage and who isn't going to play. What other reason is there for keeping him? Just pay up his contract and let him leave. It won't cost us a penny more than having him in the reserves till May.

[Concrete John]

That’s different from what he said the other day, which was essentially “if I’m to bring one in, then the wage bill must be balanced”.

the wage bill thing is just a red herring. its all about lerner making a profit on the good signings to pay for the losses of the rubbish signings. If you were trying to just lower the wage bill you'd obviously just get rid of the shite even if it was at a major loss. We've still got shite while the good players have been flogged.

Well, surely that’s because it’s very easy to sell an Ashley Young, but very difficult to find somebody to buy players like Beye or Heskey, who are over 30 and on over 50,000 per week?

you'd just pay 'em off in that case. What is the point of us having beye in the squad? he's never going to play. We could have sold him to a championship club and offered to pay half his wages for the season. Still would have cost us less than currently

In order to do that you'd still have to find a Championship club willing to pay him £20k a week.  It's nowhere nearly as easy as you make out to get players out of a club who want to stay.

And you do realise that 'paying up his contract' doesn't actually save us any money to spend elsewhere, don't you?