If McLeish was sacked, who would you want in?

[john e]

Randy made a mistake with Mcliesh, but i still havent given up on him yet.
there is a whole lot worse out there, just look across the road,
anyway i still think Randy's heart is in the right place, and to be honest for every Man City/Chelsea type owner there is more than a few Portsmouth/Blues owners

[brian green]

Pretty much sums up my stance john e.

[Salsa Party Animal]

For manager I would want someone who manage in two different country in europe (Scotland don't count) and Champions League experience with top team. We need someone who understand how to play football and what is needed to be top 3/4 teams. We haven't played beautiful and winning football for very very long time. I hate those managers who fear losing.

[Iago]

Alex McLeish reckons his Aston Villa side are too quiet and wants them to be noisier and more aggressive - with one another!

Villa are yet to win away this season in the Premier League and face a tough run of festive fixtures, starting on Saturday at lowly Bolton.

The Brummies have conceded last-minute goals at Sunderland and QPR this term to turn winning positions into draws.

And boss McLeish said: “I want fists clenched in the last minutes and mental resilience saying, ‘We are not conceding here!’

“We are quite a quiet team. I would like to see more of a fieriness about us when we get to those situations - a wee bit of body language at Sunderland to say, 'We are defending this with our lives.'

“I want a siege mentality in the box and the same with the QPR last-minute equaliser.

“It has to be down to the character of the players. Players have to be prepared to fall out with people on the training field and the pitch.

“They are as quiet a bunch as I have worked with, and we are trying to get them to come out of their shells a little bit.

“The one thing that is difficult to get 100 per cent right is the mind of players.”

Why does he keep referring to an aggressive style, I do not want us to be a dirty team.

He never speaks of plans to improve the technical side of our game, only the defense matters to AM. Expect a brick wall against Bolton then .

[Risso]

And now McLeish reckons he isn't a negative manager, and that if the fans considered the facts they'd see that his teams do indeed play entertaining football.  The poor, deluded fool.

[Eigentor]

And now McLeish reckons he isn't a negative manager, and that if the fans considered the facts they'd see that his teams do indeed play entertaining football.  The poor, deluded fool.

So now he's criticising the fans for questioning his tactics and abilities.

It's starting to look like Uncle Woy at Liverpool. McLeish is not necessarily a crap manager, but first and foremostly the wrong person at the wrong club at the wrong time.

[Risso]

He absolutely is a crap manager though.

[Eigentor]

Ok, I was just trying to appear balanced and reasonable, but I'll admit: he's pretty crap.

[supertom]

Hands up who thought it was better under O Leary? I'll be honest my hand is beginning to creep up, worryingly so, of its own free will. If McLeish starts moaning about us already, he's fucked. At least O Leary had a decent first season (in fairness, from xmas onwards that year) and we played some reasonable stuff when we got Solano.
I'll also half expect us to have another Doncaster horror this season when we play Bristol Rovers in the cup.

The worst part is, after all the money invested in managers, I just don't see Randy paying to fuck McLeish off, then forking out to hire someone else. We're stuck with this wretched brand of clueless, dull as dishwater, football. And our easy start grace has worn off. Easy starts, mean tougher run-ins, and if we start on a run of defeats, we could find ourselve staring into the Championship trap door. (Just got the Trap Door theme in my head!)

[Chris Smith]

This is how it always happens. People have decided they don't like him so everything is then twisted and ridiculous conclusions drawn. He is absolutely right to emphasise the need for more character from the players and that a siege mentality in the last couple of minutes at QPR and Sunderland (let's not forget that we were in front due to playing some decent attacking football) would have made a huge difference. That's 4 more points we'd have if they'd been more resilient.

Similarly he's not criticising fans he's giving a different point of view and it really does take the biscuit for people who gave spent weeks slagging him at every opportunity to become all precious about him responding.

[john e]

Hands up who thought it was better under O Leary? I'll be honest my hand is beginning to creep up, worryingly so, of its own free will. If McLeish starts moaning about us already, he's fucked. At least O Leary had a decent first season (in fairness, from xmas onwards that year) and we played some reasonable stuff when we got Solano.
I'll also half expect us to have another Doncaster horror this season when we play Bristol Rovers in the cup.

The worst part is, after all the money invested in managers, I just don't see Randy paying to fuck McLeish off, then forking out to hire someone else. We're stuck with this wretched brand of clueless, dull as dishwater, football. And our easy start grace has worn off. Easy starts, mean tougher run-ins, and if we start on a run of defeats, we could find ourselve staring into the Championship trap door. (Just got the Trap Door theme in my head!)

as much as i think AM is a big mistake, its hard not to like him as a person, whereas it was piss easy with DOL,
the other difference is that i think Mcliesh does care about the club, O'leary didnt give a toss and just hung around for another big payout,
 AM is at least trying his best, his best just isnt any where near good enough

[Risso]

This is how it always happens. People have decided they don't like him so everything is then twisted and ridiculous conclusions drawn. He is absolutely right to emphasise the need for more character from the players and that a siege mentality in the last couple of minutes at QPR and Sunderland (let's not forget that we were in front due to playing some decent attacking football) would have made a huge difference. That's 4 more points we'd have if they'd been more resilient.

Similarly he's not criticising fans he's giving a different point of view and it really does take the biscuit for people who gave spent weeks slagging him at every opportunity to become all precious about him responding.

What on earth are you blathering on about?  Nobody's being precious about anything, just pointing out that he isn't an entertaining manager, and that if we do indeed look at the facts as he suggests, they do absolutely nothing to back his claim up.  His Blues team last year were a disgrace, and we're not much better.

[Eigentor]

This is how it always happens. People have decided they don't like him so everything is then twisted and ridiculous conclusions drawn.

You can only get so enthusiastic about a manager with a recent relegation on his CV. The players at his disposal at Blues last season weren't world beaters, but not worse than those at Wigan or Wolves. Add to the relegation that his team probably was the least entertaining in the whole Premiership.

I'll admit that I have been worried about this appointment all along. Though he worked under difficult conditions at Blues, relegation and dreadful football wasn't an inevitable outcome. So his reputation of being able to get the best out of what he has got seemed unfounded. Maybe that equates to deciding that I don't like him.

Since the start the results have been disappointing (3 wins isn't good enough considering the easy start we've had), and the performances ranging from the unspiring to the truly dreadful with very small spells of decent football inbetween. I could have lived with that. What makes me join the ranks of 'keyboard warriors' (and argue that those who claim that Houllier was just as bad are wrong) is that it's becoming obvious that he has no idea what he can do and what he wants to do with the players that he has got. He sends out a seemingly random team with a gameplan they're unable to implement, or perhaps with no gameplan at all. My fear is that we have a manager who doesn't know what he is doing.

[Dave Clark Five]

Now all we get is he was crap at both clubs.

Correct. It is like listening to a load of parrots.

[Chris Smith]

This is how it always happens. People have decided they don't like him so everything is then twisted and ridiculous conclusions drawn. He is absolutely right to emphasise the need for more character from the players and that a siege mentality in the last couple of minutes at QPR and Sunderland (let's not forget that we were in front due to playing some decent attacking football) would have made a huge difference. That's 4 more points we'd have if they'd been more resilient.

Similarly he's not criticising fans he's giving a different point of view and it really does take the biscuit for people who gave spent weeks slagging him at every opportunity to become all precious about him responding.

What on earth are you blathering on about?  Nobody's being precious about anything, just pointing out that he isn't an entertaining manager, and that if we do indeed look at the facts as he suggests, they do absolutely nothing to back his claim up.  His Blues team last year were a disgrace, and we're not much better.

The quote above about "criticising the fans"' which is a distortion of his comments.

 You're a bit grumpy this morning, I'm guessing it was a good do last night.