If McLeish was sacked, who would you want in?

[PaulWinch again]

The thing I still can't get my head around is we paid blose a good deal of compensation and massively increased Mcleish's wages. What on earth were the board thinking? I mean you can reel off any number of managers who would be better options and probably cheaper.

[Dave Clark Five]

No blame attributed to the players then?
McLeish was tearing his hair out throughout the game due to the performance.
He is being let down by these overpaid people.

[Irish villain]

He wont be sacked because our Absentee Landlord is er absent. There is nothing happening at our Club, we are just going through the motions of turning up and watching the season go by, no leadership, no direction, no passion and no glory.

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[Monty]

No blame attributed to the players then?
McLeish was tearing his hair out throughout the game due to the performance.
He is being let down by these overpaid wankers.

Or alternatively, there is no point in picking a team designed for one strategy and just playing the usual way.

Style of football is down to a manager. It is down to his strategising, his training ground work, his beliefs and his knowledge. Today he picked Bannan, Jenas, Herd and Albrighton (Gabby and Bent sort of pick themselves) and the defenders and keeper still pinged the ball over their heads to forwards who are never designed for that neanderthal style of football, especially against defenders like Vidic and Ferdinand. And today was not an isolated incident.

Who instead of McLeish? Anybody. Well, not anybody. Not Steve Bruce, because he has exactly the same old-fashioned flaws as McLeish. But almost anybody.

[Greg N'Ash]

No blame attributed to the players then?
McLeish was tearing his hair out throughout the game due to the performance.
He is being let down by these overpaid people.

that i do agree with. Sooner or later you have to come to the conclusion that how many different managers you try, a lot of the players aren't good enough.

[Dave Clark Five]

No blame attributed to the players then?
McLeish was tearing his hair out throughout the game due to the performance.
He is being let down by these overpaid wankers.

Or alternatively, there is no point in picking a team designed for one strategy and just
playing the usual way.

Style of football is down to a manager. It is down to his strategising, his training ground work, his beliefs and his knowledge. Today he picked Bannan, Jenas, Herd and Albrighton (Gabby and Bent sort of pick themselves) and the defenders and keeper
still pinged the ball over their heads to forwards who are never designed for that neanderthal style of football, especially against defenders like Vidic and Ferdinand. And today was not an isolated incident.

Who instead of McLeish? Anybody. Well, not anybody. Not Steve Bruce, because he has exactly the same old-fashioned flaws as McLeish. But almost anybody.

Midfield let the side down again. It may be popular to blame McLeish but that is not the answer. Bent is bone idle and the midfield are clueless.

[Risso]

McLeish was doomed to failure from the start.  He's a bad manager, which everybody except Lerner realised, whose only hope for even minor success would have been to have been given some funds to at least sort the defence out.  But a poor side from last year, with two of its best players sold and not replaced, with a defence that's absolutely woeful needed somebody far, far better than McLeish.

Lerner is ruining this club at a rate of knots.

[Monty]

No blame attributed to the players then?
McLeish was tearing his hair out throughout the game due to the performance.
He is being let down by these overpaid wankers.

Or alternatively, there is no point in picking a team designed for one strategy and just
playing the usual way.

Style of football is down to a manager. It is down to his strategising, his training ground work, his beliefs and his knowledge. Today he picked Bannan, Jenas, Herd and Albrighton (Gabby and Bent sort of pick themselves) and the defenders and keeper
still pinged the ball over their heads to forwards who are never designed for that neanderthal style of football, especially against defenders like Vidic and Ferdinand. And today was not an isolated incident.

Who instead of McLeish? Anybody. Well, not anybody. Not Steve Bruce, because he has exactly the same old-fashioned flaws as McLeish. But almost anybody.

Midfield let the side down again. It may be popular to blame McLeish but that is not the answer. Bent is bone idle and the midfield are clueless.

How can it be the fault of a midfield who mostly see the ball flying over their heads?

[Risso]

No blame attributed to the players then?
McLeish was tearing his hair out throughout the game due to the performance.
He is being let down by these overpaid people.

McLeish is doing as badly as I thought he would.  Dreadful football, with lots of draws and the odd win to stop us actually going down, although I'm less sure of that last bit.  Yes the players, and especially the defence are shit as well, but to be honest the tone has been set from the top, and it's Lerner who deserves all the criticism for the state we're in.  I really do wish he'd sell up, and fuck off.

[Dave Clark Five]

Monty - the defence are being forced to hoof it due to the weak midfield.

Risso - I am worried about Lerner's ownership of the club. However, what can we do about it? I think he should go.

[Monty]

Monty - the defence are being forced to hoof it due to the weak midfield.

Risso - I am worried about Lerner's ownership of the club. However, what can we do about it? I think he should go.

How? On many occasions Herd and Bannan would run back to offer support, only for the ball to to go back to the keeper and long to, frankly, the opposition. I will not have it that we are doing what is pragmatic. We are doing what is stupid.

[brontebilly]

Randy Lerner and his cronies are at the same level as the chicken farmers. This appointment is a fuck you to the fans. It still beggars belief how McLeish is in charge of the side.

In saying all that I can't believe McLeish is as bad as he is turning out to be. His management of the side is frankly cowardly. We have a lot of ball players at the club but McLeish has implemented a lobsided route one joke outfit. Darren Bent running
around like a headless chicken up front chasing aimless punts.

[Jimbo]

He won't be sacked, and neither should he be until the club appoints somebody at board level with a single idea of what football is all about (which they should do immediately). Otherwise, we're going to see this pantomime played out again and again. 

[PeterWithesShin]

I agree the players aren't exactly covering themselves in glory regardless of what 11 or formation is picked. McLeish and the coaches have to take some of the blame though. It's their job to train them in the basic concept of passing and movement off the ball. Ours remains woeful and if anything is looking worse as the season progresses.

[KevinGage]

The thing I still can't get my head around is we paid blose a good deal of compensation and massively increased Mcleish's wages. What on earth were the board thinking? I mean you can reel off any number of managers who would be better options and probably cheaper.

If you take the MON compensation, the Houllier wages and settlement and McLeish's wages and settlement to B-lose, that's enough to hire a manager on a Hiddink/ Ancelotti style package and still have a bit left over.

Even if they were primarily only here for the money, at that price you are getting a degree of expertise and know how. Not that I'm suggesting they were ever contenders, just highlighting the excessive waste in that particular area.  Seems very much at odds with our cost cutting drive. 

Get a decent (and healthy) manager = no need to waste millions in settlements.  Or is that too simplistic?