Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry

[Rick_avfc]

Did leeds loan out James Milner?  NO

Pantomime voice on - Oh yes they did

Yes they did but im sure he made his inital debut with Leeds first then got farmed out to Swindon.  Villa should have used that approach with GG to see if futher development was required.

[Risso]

Going out on loan didn't do the likes of Rio Ferdinand, David Beckham & Michael Carrick (to name a few) any harm when they were younger. They're just a few that gained experience at a lower level and went on to have good careers winning trophies.

The point is, we have some absolute dross in our squad and first team at the moment.  Our midfeld in particular is dreadful, absolute gubbins, and yet we have an extremely hot prospect and aren't prepared to give him a chance.  It isn't like he needs to develop physically either, he looks to be an absolute beast.

That being the case he's best out of it instead of the latest target for our ever-patient followers. I'd rather not have a case of sink or swim for someone who might turn out to be an Olympic swimming champion in the future but can barely manage a length of the pool yet.

Coventry are second to bottom, so how do you think our loveable neighbours will take to a Villa player if he doesn't make an impact?

[QBVILLA]

I really can't see what the fuss is about.He's going to get valuable fist team experience and will be back in a month's time.How he performs for Coventry will give our management a better indication of whether he's ready for our first team than they'll get from watching him in the reserves.I think the fact that he is going on a short term loan is more of an indication that he IS being considered for the first team.

By the way Milner was loaned out by Leeds.If I remember correctly he went to Swindon.

[timeoutbigbar]

I really can't see what the fuss is about.He's going to get valuable fist team experience and will be back in a month's time.How he performs for Coventry will give our management a better indication of whether he's ready for our first team than they'll get from watching him in the reserves.I think the fact that he is going on a short term loan is more of an indication that he IS being considered for the first team.

By the way Milner was loaned out by Leeds.If I remember correctly he went to Swindon.

Agree entirely.  If I was being picky, I might not have chosen Coventry, but it doesn't matter too much.

[Concrete John]

If he's not going to play for us just yet, then his development is better served gettinf game time in the Championship.

[Concrete John]

I really can't see what the fuss is about.

It's about a decision the club has taken at a time when they can do nothing right.  So surely it must be wrong??

[dave.woodhall]

Coventry are second to bottom, so how do you think our loveable neighbours will take to a Villa player if he doesn't make an impact?

At which point he walks away from them without a second thought.

[Rick_avfc]

I think the fact he hasn't been given a run out in the first team to see if he is capable of playing at this level before being loaned out is an issue with me.  With the run of games coming up, he should have been given like 20/30mins here and there to see if he can cope playing in the PL before loaning him out to the championship.  Yes, James Milner did get loanded out but i'm sure (although I could be very wrong) that he made his debut as a 16yr for Leeds before they loaned him out to Swindon?  This is what Villa should have done with Gardner.  The guy is obviously playing very very well, albeit in the reserves and next gen comp but like I have said before, if a player is good enough, at least give them a chance just like Everton did with Rooney and LFC did with Owen.

[Iago]

This is all starting to sound a tad hysterical. Give the bloke a chance to try the next step up with a bit less pressure.

I disagree. I see it as a urge to see something fresh and exciting. Personally I feel the club have given up hope to be competitive in the league, and we have also given up on our most winnable cup without a fight against Bolton.

What else is there for supporters this season to be excited about? The FA Cup? It will be let down like the LC in my opinion. We keep hearing long term, but we see no action of it.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Then you've got January to look forward to haven't you? :-)

[Mazrim]

So would I although I would add the caveat that, at least when I've seen him in the reserves, he's been outshone by Bannan who   also doesn't seem to be trusted enough for regular starts.

Bannan is several years older and more experienced, and although I rate Bannan, has never outshone Gardner that I can recall. Nor do I consider him to have anything like the potential Gardner has.

[Iago]

Then you've got January to look forward to haven't you? :-)

I do not trust AM to give him a consistent and fair opportunity to prove himself.

[PaulTheVillan]

Good idea IMO. He's just starting to hit some good form and some game time in the championship will improve fitness & will be a higher level than the U19s.

[philthebar]

As long as he is not warming the bench there then I so no reason why he shouldn't go there.  Feel it's make or break time for him though. 

Good luck Gary - see you in the New Year

[Boz]

I think the fact he hasn't been given a run out in the first team to see if he is capable of playing at this level before being loaned out is an issue with me.  With the run of games coming up, he should have been given like 20/30mins here and there to see if he can cope playing in the PL before loaning him out to the championship.  Yes, James Milner did get loanded out but i'm sure (although I could be very wrong) that he made his debut as a 16yr for Leeds before they loaned him out to Swindon?  This is what Villa should have done with Gardner.  The guy is obviously playing very very well, albeit in the reserves and next gen comp but like I have said before, if a player is good enough, at least give them a chance just like Everton did with Rooney and LFC did with Owen.

Totally agree. GG should be on the bench each game and brought on for the final 30 minutes or so to see how he performs at first team level..

He's a fine talent and in our situation we should be utilising our best players, additionally if he's in the squad, he's gelling with the other first team players.

Is it more about saving his wages, even a month's money??

Are we struggling that much??