Did leeds loan out James Milner? NO
Quote from: Risso on November 24, 2011, 11:04:17 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2011, 10:59:49 AMQuote from: Rick_avfc on November 24, 2011, 10:42:49 AMI do not see the point in loaning Gardner out to Coventry. He has been playing excellent for the reserves and in the next gen series so should be worthy of a place on the bench if not a start for the starting 11. Did everton loan out Rooney? Did Liverpool loan out Michael Owen? Did leeds loan out James Milner? NO! They believed in their youth player and gave them a chance to shine and boy did those players pay back the faith their club shown in them. Yet another pathetic decision by the club!Did Manchester United loan out Beckham? Did we loan out Gabby? Given that he's not played a single minute for the first team yet is already being hyped up as a potential world-beater I don't see the problem in letting him have a couple of games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before, especially as our next month or so isn't the type of situation to pitch him into. Hopefully he'll be with us for another decade - six weeks maximum isn't going to make much difference.Were Manchester United playing Alan Hutton and Emile Heskey in midfield?EXACTLY!
Quote from: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2011, 10:59:49 AMQuote from: Rick_avfc on November 24, 2011, 10:42:49 AMI do not see the point in loaning Gardner out to Coventry. He has been playing excellent for the reserves and in the next gen series so should be worthy of a place on the bench if not a start for the starting 11. Did everton loan out Rooney? Did Liverpool loan out Michael Owen? Did leeds loan out James Milner? NO! They believed in their youth player and gave them a chance to shine and boy did those players pay back the faith their club shown in them. Yet another pathetic decision by the club!Did Manchester United loan out Beckham? Did we loan out Gabby? Given that he's not played a single minute for the first team yet is already being hyped up as a potential world-beater I don't see the problem in letting him have a couple of games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before, especially as our next month or so isn't the type of situation to pitch him into. Hopefully he'll be with us for another decade - six weeks maximum isn't going to make much difference.Were Manchester United playing Alan Hutton and Emile Heskey in midfield?
Quote from: Rick_avfc on November 24, 2011, 10:42:49 AMI do not see the point in loaning Gardner out to Coventry. He has been playing excellent for the reserves and in the next gen series so should be worthy of a place on the bench if not a start for the starting 11. Did everton loan out Rooney? Did Liverpool loan out Michael Owen? Did leeds loan out James Milner? NO! They believed in their youth player and gave them a chance to shine and boy did those players pay back the faith their club shown in them. Yet another pathetic decision by the club!Did Manchester United loan out Beckham? Did we loan out Gabby? Given that he's not played a single minute for the first team yet is already being hyped up as a potential world-beater I don't see the problem in letting him have a couple of games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before, especially as our next month or so isn't the type of situation to pitch him into. Hopefully he'll be with us for another decade - six weeks maximum isn't going to make much difference.
I do not see the point in loaning Gardner out to Coventry. He has been playing excellent for the reserves and in the next gen series so should be worthy of a place on the bench if not a start for the starting 11. Did everton loan out Rooney? Did Liverpool loan out Michael Owen? Did leeds loan out James Milner? NO! They believed in their youth player and gave them a chance to shine and boy did those players pay back the faith their club shown in them. Yet another pathetic decision by the club!
And what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2011, 11:20:12 AMAnd what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. How are we going to find out if he isn't? And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.
Quote from: Risso on November 24, 2011, 11:21:30 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2011, 11:20:12 AMAnd what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. How are we going to find out if he isn't? And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.As I said earlier, giving him a few games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before might, just might, be a good idea in the context of a career that could last another 15 years.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2011, 11:24:16 AMQuote from: Risso on November 24, 2011, 11:21:30 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2011, 11:20:12 AMAnd what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. How are we going to find out if he isn't? And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.As I said earlier, giving him a few games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before might, just might, be a good idea in the context of a career that could last another 15 years.I'd rather see him in the squad getting a few run outs as a sub.
That six weeks could, and quite probably will, see us plummeting down the table with the games we've got coming up. Sometimes you need to take a chance on something different.
So would I although I would add the caveat that, at least when I've seen him in the reserves, he's been outshone by Bannan who also doesn't seem to be trusted enough for regular starts.