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Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #150 on: November 24, 2011, 11:18:17 AM »
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Did leeds loan out James Milner?  NO

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #151 on: November 24, 2011, 11:18:53 AM »
I do not see the point in loaning Gardner out to Coventry.  He has been playing excellent for the reserves and in the next gen series so should be worthy of a place on the bench if not a start for the starting 11.  Did everton loan out Rooney?  Did Liverpool loan out Michael Owen?  Did leeds loan out James Milner?  NO!  They believed in their youth player and gave them a chance to shine and boy did those players pay back the faith their club shown in them. 
Yet another pathetic decision by the club!

Did Manchester United loan out Beckham? Did we loan out Gabby? Given that he's not played a single minute for the first team yet is already being hyped up as a potential world-beater I don't see the problem in letting him have a couple of games at a  more competitive level than he's ever played at before, especially as our next month or so isn't the type of situation to pitch him into. Hopefully he'll be with us for another decade - six weeks maximum isn't going to make much difference.

Were Manchester United playing Alan Hutton and Emile Heskey in midfield?

EXACTLY!

Exactly what?

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #152 on: November 24, 2011, 11:20:12 AM »
I do not see the point in loaning Gardner out to Coventry.  He has been playing excellent for the reserves and in the next gen series so should be worthy of a place on the bench if not a start for the starting 11.  Did everton loan out Rooney?  Did Liverpool loan out Michael Owen?  Did leeds loan out James Milner?  NO!  They believed in their youth player and gave them a chance to shine and boy did those players pay back the faith their club shown in them. 
Yet another pathetic decision by the club!

Did Manchester United loan out Beckham? Did we loan out Gabby? Given that he's not played a single minute for the first team yet is already being hyped up as a potential world-beater I don't see the problem in letting him have a couple of games at a  more competitive level than he's ever played at before, especially as our next month or so isn't the type of situation to pitch him into. Hopefully he'll be with us for another decade - six weeks maximum isn't going to make much difference.

Were Manchester United playing Alan Hutton and Emile Heskey in midfield?

And what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. 

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #153 on: November 24, 2011, 11:21:30 AM »

And what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. 

How are we going to find out if he isn't?  And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #154 on: November 24, 2011, 11:24:16 AM »

And what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. 

How are we going to find out if he isn't?  And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.

As I said earlier, giving him a few games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before might, just might, be a good idea in the context of a career that could last another 15 years.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #155 on: November 24, 2011, 11:25:21 AM »
As its only a short loan till January this tells me that the management are getting him ready for the first team. If he was off till the end of the season it would be worrying, but for all the GG fans out there this is good news.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #156 on: November 24, 2011, 11:28:21 AM »

And what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. 

How are we going to find out if he isn't?  And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.

As I said earlier, giving him a few games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before might, just might, be a good idea in the context of a career that could last another 15 years.

I'd rather see him in the squad getting a few run outs as a sub.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #157 on: November 24, 2011, 11:31:07 AM »
So would I although I would add the caveat that, at least when I've seen him in the reserves, he's been outshone by Bannan who   also doesn't seem to be trusted enough for regular starts.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #158 on: November 24, 2011, 11:35:39 AM »

And what difference does that make? If Gardner isn't ready for the first team yet, he isn't ready regardless of who else we've got. 

How are we going to find out if he isn't?  And even if he isn't, it's difficult to imagine him doing any worse than Hutton.

As I said earlier, giving him a few games at a more competitive level than he's ever played at before might, just might, be a good idea in the context of a career that could last another 15 years.

I'd rather see him in the squad getting a few run outs as a sub.

Which I've no doubt in another six weeks he will do. Meanwhile he can learn his trade a bit more.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #159 on: November 24, 2011, 11:37:48 AM »
That six weeks could, and quite probably will, see us plummeting down the table with the games we've got coming up.  Sometimes you need to take a chance on something different.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #160 on: November 24, 2011, 11:41:29 AM »
That six weeks could, and quite probably will, see us plummeting down the table with the games we've got coming up.  Sometimes you need to take a chance on something different.

That being the case he's best out of it instead of the latest target for our ever-patient followers. I'd rather not have a case of sink or swim for someone who might turn out to be an Olympic swimming champion in the future but can barely manage a length of the pool yet.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #161 on: November 24, 2011, 11:42:09 AM »
That six weeks could, and quite probably will, see us plummeting down the table with the games we've got coming up.  Sometimes you need to take a chance on something different.
This. The supporters can relate to youth players coming through to the first team, especially a talent who has been on fire in the last few weeks. Why kill the momentum?

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #162 on: November 24, 2011, 11:50:35 AM »
Going out on loan didn't do the likes of Rio Ferdinand, David Beckham & Michael Carrick (to name a few) any harm when they were younger. They're just a few that gained experience at a lower level and went on to have good careers winning trophies.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #163 on: November 24, 2011, 11:51:52 AM »
So would I although I would add the caveat that, at least when I've seen him in the reserves, he's been outshone by Bannan who   also doesn't seem to be trusted enough for regular starts.

Perhaps they don't fit the remit of 'Get behind the ball lad, and when you get it, hoof it forward.;

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #164 on: November 24, 2011, 11:54:34 AM »
That six weeks could, and quite probably will, see us plummeting down the table with the games we've got coming up.  Sometimes you need to take a chance on something different.

This is all dependent on whether AM persists with the ill-fated Hutton experiment. Relying right now on someone who hasn't played a minute of senior football, and whose handful of minutes playing for the under 21s resulted in two spectacular goals, admittedly, but otherwise showed no signs of dominating against the likes of Iceland et al.

This is all starting to sound a tad hysterical. Give the bloke a chance to try the next step up with a bit less pressure.

 


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