Sunderland v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[dicedlam]

A point away against Sunderland is decent.

Totally agree.

but by christ...its painful on the eyes watching it.

[Lambert and Payne]

Our last nine games; D/D/D/L/D/W/L/L/D and the only 'big six' team we've played is Man City, oh dear. We've won two out of ten league games, both against 18th and 20th in the league who are shite. The football we're playing is diabolical and we can't defend to save our lives, especially set pieces. And to think McLeish's only plus point was that he 'would make us more solid' and 'we won't concede many', whats he got going for him now then? We'll never score many with him in charge so when we can't defend and give sloppy goals away from set pieces that equals trouble.

We HAVE to beat Norwich with Swansea a, Spurs a, Man Utd h, Bolton a, Arsenal h, Liverpool h, Stoke a, Chelsea a coming up. There aren't many points for us amongst that lot and my prediction of 17 points by January is actually looking a bit ambitious.

Oh and Alan Hutton is one of the worst players i've seen in a Villa shirt, absolutely dreadful. And how the feck does Heskey still get picked and play 90 minutes, especially in midfield? He's garbage.

Let me guess - you just got beat by lpool so you come back to villa for the week?

[ronshirt]

Gabby looked very very pissed off at the end. I'm not sure he's enjoying his football at the moment.

I like Mr Herd.

Favourite moment was in the second half when the Tumbling Bear shaped to shoot and a bloke behind us shouted 'Mind the windows'.

[olaftab]

Clark played at Man City, our worst defensive display of the season.

There is an argument that says conceding 4 at Mancity is not as bad as conceding  2  against  donkey teams like WBA and Sunderland.

[olaftab]

Well yes a point at Sunderland is not bad however it was the way we lost a winning position that is disheartening.

[LeeB]

Where will our next three points come from?

The next three games?

[Vanilla]

Where will our next three points come from?

The next three games?

Perhaps 4 points tops:

Next three games are:
5 Norwich (H)
21 Tottenham (A)
27 Swansea (A)

December worries me though:
3 Man Utd (H)
10 Bolton (A)
17 Liverpool (H)
21 Arsenal (H)
26 Stoke (A)
31 Chelsea (A)

At worse case scenario, you could possible see us only getting about 2 points from that lot.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Well yes a point at Sunderland is not bad however it was the way we lost a winning position that is disheartening.

This.

We're already being quoted as the team who have lost more points than any other from winning positions - TWICE today - (sound familiar? - we were the experts at this last year!) and from set pieces again!
The players on the field have to take responsibility for letting it happen, in the same way that we surrendered to a s**t team last week cos we went one man down!

[Legion]

Perhaps 4 points tops:

Next three games are:
5 Norwich (H) D
21 Tottenham (A) L
27 Swansea (A) D

December worries me though:
3 Man Utd (H) L
10 Bolton (A) D
17 Liverpool (H) L
21 Arsenal (H) L
26 Stoke (A) D
31 Chelsea (A) L

At worse case scenario, you could possible see us only getting about 2 points from that lot.

4 for me.

[andrew08]

On my way back. I thought we did ok, and would have accepted a point at the start. If the scoring had been the other way round (us score last and late like at Everton)it would have been more enjoyable. I have to say the support was good considering how downbeat we all are. As ever an away goal celebration is so much better than a home goal one.

[Chris Smith]

Clark played at Man City, our worst defensive display of the season.

There is an argument that says conceding 4 at Mancity is not as bad as conceding  2  against  donkey teams like WBA and Sunderland.

The argument falls down when you consider the goals we conceded. They're a much better team than us but we didn't help ourselves with the way we defended.

[Vanilla]

Perhaps 4 points tops:

Next three games are:
5 Norwich (H) D
21 Tottenham (A) L
27 Swansea (A) D

December worries me though:
3 Man Utd (H) L
10 Bolton (A) D
17 Liverpool (H) L
21 Arsenal (H) L
26 Stoke (A) D
31 Chelsea (A) L

At worse case scenario, you could possible see us only getting about 2 points from that lot.

4 for me.

Although, if we are all good boys and girls and write nice letters to Santa, he might leave us a few points in our stockings on Christmas morning. 

[LeeB]

Where will our next three points come from?

The next three games?

Perhaps 4 points tops:

Next three games are:
5 Norwich (H)
21 Tottenham (A)
27 Swansea (A)

December worries me though:
3 Man Utd (H)
10 Bolton (A)
17 Liverpool (H)
21 Arsenal (H)
26 Stoke (A)
31 Chelsea (A)

At worse case scenario, you could possible see us only getting about 2 points from that lot.

It was more of a (poor) quip on how we always fucking draw.

It's a decent point, but how many times have we dropped points in the last minute in the last 18 months?

That's two managers now, both who could boast having had pretty miserly defences in previous jobs, who can't seem to get Collins and Dunne and co to see out 90 minutes.

[Tony]

Well yes a point at Sunderland is not bad however it was the way we lost a winning position that is disheartening.

This.

We're already being quoted as the team who have lost more points than any other from winning positions - TWICE today - (sound familiar? - we were the experts at this last year!) and from set pieces again!
The players on the field have to take responsibility for letting it happen, in the same way that we surrendered to a s**t team last week cos we went one man down!

Agreed and it's the same sorry story of not defending set pieces, how can this keep happening, it's not all McLeish's fault, as you point out we were doing this last season under a different manager but he has to address it.

[Eigentor]

Perhaps 4 points tops:

Next three games are:
5 Norwich (H) D
21 Tottenham (A) L
27 Swansea (A) D

December worries me though:
3 Man Utd (H) L
10 Bolton (A) D
17 Liverpool (H) L
21 Arsenal (H) L
26 Stoke (A) D
31 Chelsea (A) L

At worse case scenario, you could possible see us only getting about 2 points from that lot.

4 for me.

No-one predicted that we would win six points against Arsenal and Liverpool at the end of last season. However, if we do take a battering in December (not unlikely, I'll admit) it will be important that we pick ourselves up.