Paul Lambert confirmed as new manager (reply #544)

[supertom]

Lambert is a winner. He achieved a lot in his playing career and was very highly regarded. I think in his era he was one of Scotlands best players and a genuine midfield power. His experience in Germany will also be of great use too. In his managerial career he's been regarded as successful everywhere he's been bar his first gig. Comparing him to Brown or Holloway is ridiculous.

For me there's easy comparison with O Neill. For all some might not like it, Mart did very well for us. Lambert plays a similar style, and is also someone who always wants to winner. Players respect him and listen to him. What I think Lambert has that O Neill doesn't, is more tactical knowledge and more willlingness to adapt. He's also part of a newer generation. He's fresher and as Norwich showed last season, has a plan B, something O Neill never really had. The mix he played was good and for a club like us could see us pushing up the table again. Hopefully he's given some money to spend. In respect of flexibility in his style, Lambert for me gets one over on Rodgers. It seems to be th one way of playing for BR and he might find it doesn't always work. We'll see, I do think Rodgers is a class act.

However for Aston Villa. The best man for the job IMO, who suits us and the style of football we've always been quite successful with, is Lambert. We've never been like Swansea (or Barca...ha ha). At least we won't be found wanting when it comes to desire to win. The final game of last season was an absolute disgrace. Something I never want to see in a Villa game again. We had no pressure, and no threat of relegation. Nothing left to play for. Instead of going out to win the game, McLeish put a side out to keep the defeat narrow. I don't even think he played for a fucking draw. Diabolical. That will never, ever happen under Lambert.

[Risso]

Too many never gave Ged a chance.  One mention of his 'ex' and toys were flung from prams and knives sharpened.  When we look at what he was trying to do - and compare that to what Big F'eck did - there is no comparision.

So this time - if it is Lambert - I hope we all give the man time and show patience and above all - show some respect.  For ourselves - as well as our club and it's manager.

Otherwise - who in their right mind would want to come to such a place?

What was Houllier trying to do exactly?  The football was just as bad as under McLeish. 

[Rimmy Jimmer]

I agree with sonlyme about Houllier. He was not given a real chance. I think Lambert is perfect for us. He was underwhelmed at Norwich when told about the finances. Hopefully this wont happen at Villa Park today. Lets hope this all goes through as soon as possible. It would be a huge disaster for us if this collapsed.

[Monty]

Too many never gave Ged a chance.  One mention of his 'ex' and toys were flung from prams and knives sharpened.  When we look at what he was trying to do - and compare that to what Big F'eck did - there is no comparision.

So this time - if it is Lambert - I hope we all give the man time and show patience and above all - show some respect.  For ourselves - as well as our club and it's manager.

Otherwise - who in their right mind would want to come to such a place?

What was Houllier trying to do exactly?  The football was just as bad as under McLeish. 

Come on Riss, it wasn't all fun and games under GH, but to say that is revisionism to a Stalinist degree.

Tom, what we learned about MON's style was that, even with all that money to back it, it had a very defined limit. Lambert needs to prove he can move beyond that.

[Rimmy Jimmer]

Very good post Supertom! We all need to get behind Lambert if he comes and give him plenty of  time.

[Risso]

Too many never gave Ged a chance.  One mention of his 'ex' and toys were flung from prams and knives sharpened.  When we look at what he was trying to do - and compare that to what Big F'eck did - there is no comparision.

So this time - if it is Lambert - I hope we all give the man time and show patience and above all - show some respect.  For ourselves - as well as our club and it's manager.

Otherwise - who in their right mind would want to come to such a place?

What was Houllier trying to do exactly?  The football was just as bad as under McLeish. 

Come on Riss, it wasn't all fun and games under GH, but to say that is revisionism to a Stalinist degree.

Tom, what we learned about MON's style was that, even with all that money to back it, it had a very defined limit. Lambert needs to prove he can move beyond that.

No sorry, what's revisionism is lots of people pretending that Houllier was midway through some Wenger-esque transformation of us into the Barcelona of the Midlands.  The reality is that Houllier's transfer record from the continent is absolutely dire, and the home loss to Wolves was the worst performance I've seen in years at Villa.  Plus he had the advantage of Young and Downing.

[The Situation]

Too many never gave Ged a chance.  One mention of his 'ex' and toys were flung from prams and knives sharpened.  When we look at what he was trying to do - and compare that to what Big F'eck did - there is no comparision.

So this time - if it is Lambert - I hope we all give the man time and show patience and above all - show some respect.  For ourselves - as well as our club and it's manager.

Otherwise - who in their right mind would want to come to such a place?

What was Houllier trying to do exactly?  The football was just as bad as under McLeish. 

Don't be ridiculous.

[supertom]

It's strange that the whole OGS saga has dampened the mood somewhat on Lambert. Take that away, and Lambert has been the runaway fans favourite to take over since Eck was buggered off. Much as I got excited about Ole, for the ballsiness of the potential appointment as much as anything, I'm delighted to get someone like Lambert. He's the sort of appointment we should have made 2 years ago.

[Risso]

It was easy to get swept up in OGS mania, and I include myself in that.  Looking at it logically, Lambert is a far better choice.

[Monty]

Transfer record is irrelevant to style of football. We had a lot of aimless possession under GH, but there was clearly something in place. It wasn't fantastic, it was barely even good most of the time, but there was a sense of a proactive plan (the confirmation from all quarters that we would have signed Cabaye is indicative). McLeish was aimless, meek, tediously physical, frightened of the ball and pathetic in his outlook to every game. There isn't a comparison.

[Nev]

Too many never gave Ged a chance.  One mention of his 'ex' and toys were flung from prams and knives sharpened.  When we look at what he was trying to do - and compare that to what Big F'eck did - there is no comparision.

So this time - if it is Lambert - I hope we all give the man time and show patience and above all - show some respect.  For ourselves - as well as our club and it's manager.

Otherwise - who in their right mind would want to come to such a place?

What was Houllier trying to do exactly?  The football was just as bad as under McLeish. 

Come on Riss, it wasn't all fun and games under GH, but to say that is revisionism to a Stalinist degree.

Tom, what we learned about MON's style was that, even with all that money to back it, it had a very defined limit. Lambert needs to prove he can move beyond that.

No sorry, what's revisionism is lots of people pretending that Houllier was midway through some Wenger-esque transformation of us into the Barcelona of the Midlands.  The reality is that Houllier's transfer record from the continent is absolutely dire, and the home loss to Wolves was the worst performance I've seen in years at Villa.  Plus he had the advantage of Young and Downing.

Excuse the pun, but Houllier's heart wasn't in it really. He had some good ideas I'm sure, he just came across as someone who didn't really give a shit whether they worked or not.

[supertom]

It was easy to get swept up in OGS mania, and I include myself in that.  Looking at it logically, Lambert is a far better choice.

Definitely. OGS would have been something a roulette wheel gamble. Might have paid off, or we could lose our house on it.

Give Lambert 20 mill and we'll be comfortably top half. I think we could add 20 points onto what we got last season, give or take.

[curiousorange]

Too many never gave Ged a chance.  One mention of his 'ex' and toys were flung from prams and knives sharpened.  When we look at what he was trying to do - and compare that to what Big F'eck did - there is no comparision.

So this time - if it is Lambert - I hope we all give the man time and show patience and above all - show some respect.  For ourselves - as well as our club and it's manager.

Otherwise - who in their right mind would want to come to such a place?

What was Houllier trying to do exactly?  The football was just as bad as under McLeish. 

Don't be ridiculous.

I recall some more entertaining games under Houllier, but I think they were because we had slightly better quality so it worked more often. However, during the Sunderland game in Jan '11 just before we signed Bent, the atmosphere at VP was evil when we went one down. The crowd stood for the entire game and chanted 'you're getting sacked in the morning.' I agree the football under McLeish was utter crap, but I do have to stress that Houllier was not a popular manager for most of his tenure either, and that included the way the team was playing.

[Tony Boucher]

BREAKING NEWS

Norwich fans in angry protest outside Paul Lambert's Norfolk home.

Police have arrested one woman.  The woman was drunk and screaming - "Where are you?  Let's be having you!"

Excellent.  I've nicked it as well

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Tom, what we learned about MON's style was that, even with all that money to back it, it had a very defined limit. Lambert needs to prove he can move beyond that.

Amen. The comparisons with MON are really starting to piss on my Lambert chips. A motivator? Yes. But you can stick your "MON style of play" up your arse. His teams didn't even try to pass the ball, it's no wonder Houllier struggled to teach the basics and TSM was clueless.

Hopefully Lambert's coaching badges weren't from the 1970's.