Are things really as bad as I feel they are?

[bertlambshank]

Because Randy knows fuck all about football,and still has no one on the board that does.

[Risso]

Merged.  Two different topics titles about exactly the same thing.

[Compass]

I don't know why people keep saying we won't go down. There's a better chance than last season.

We have the worst manager in the league (no one else has 2 PL relegations on their C.V, only a couple have 1) and we've lost two our of best wide men who provided service for Bent.

The fact we're had the longest easiest fixtures out of everyone and we're sitting in 11th is a disgrace. I think you all have to face the reality. It's shit I know, but I think we all have to reunite and get that talentless man off the helm sooner rather than later. If the board fail to comply, we should take it to the next level. We deserve better than this (I'm not saying we deserve to be the best, just the way we've been shut out this summer like we were nothing) and we shouldn't allow them to carry on being this arrogant.

[rutski]

brian green wrote umpteen times last season about how bad things were and worse than our capitulation to the 3rd tier of football, then we ended up ninth??? grow up everyone, we are doing ok in difficult circumstances, but if you want to keep the negativity going, stay at home and give it cause we dont want it at vp!

[dave.woodhall]

If the board fail to comply, we should take it to the next level. We deserve better than this (I'm not saying we deserve to be the best, just the way we've been shut out this summer like we were nothing) and we shouldn't allow them to carry on being this arrogant.

And what's the next level? Holding your breath until you pass out? Thkweaming until you're thick?

[Jockey Randall]

I also don't understand why Mcleish has already been labelled as clearly not up to the job? He's had 9 league games and we're currently 5th of 14 in our mini league. He's hardly in the same category as Steve Kean!

[brian green]

I am with you on that one Leeg and Paulie as always is right on the money.

Martin O'Neill's departure was a calculated and premeditated act of spite in my opinion.   It rocked the club and it still has not got its act back together.   Much of this I believe is due to the parachuting in of executives with no football background.   Our board has no feel for the game or empathy with the fans.   I get the very strong feeling that to the Villa board a football club is very much like any other business when in actual fact the very opposite is true.   The sequence which destroyed our hopes and our optimism was MON's vengefulness followed by the rushed appointment of a manager from a very thin field of candidates at the very worst time of the year and ending up with a man who was too old, too ill, too set in his out of date ways and too much of a self opinionated smart arse ever to secure for us the success we had come so close to achieving.   His health gave out as it was bound to do and our non football aware board plunged into an absolute pig's ear of a trawl for a new manager.   Like the ugly girl with bad teeth, acne, halitosis and two left feet we got to dance with the only partner who would have us Scotch Alex the serial premiership wallflower.   This sequence of mismanagement of the club's affairs cost us so much money we could not do anything but paper over the cracks in the squad.

Yes, it is bad.   Bad football, bad atmosphere, no spirit, no leadership, once competent players like Petrov and Heskey just going through the motions for massive wages.   An absentee owner and a manager as bright and inspiring as a plate of haggis.

All that and more but they will not bore or stifle or frustrate or infuriate the love of Aston Villa out of me.   Bring it on.

[brian green]

I was writing when you made that comment about me rutski.   You will be hard pressed to find any comment of mine in which I said we were worse than the side which went down to the third division.   If you believe that 9th did not flatter us you probably thought the home game against Wolves last year was a good result.

[taylorsworkrate]

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

[rutski]

I was writing when you made that comment about me rutski.   You will be hard pressed to find any comment of mine in which I said we were worse than the side which went down to the third division.   If you believe that 9th did not flatter us you probably thought the home game against Wolves last year was a good result.

believe me, living in the black country and travelling to the game with wolves pals, as i did with albion pals yesterday, i did not! and i feel we totally deserved our ninth place as 38 matches do not lie. Anyone who tells you the league is a false document is an ipswich fan.

[dave.woodhall]

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

A more pertinent question is "How long can we blame him for?"

[Jockey Randall]

Some of the comments in this thread make me think we'd have been better off doing a Newcastle and getting relegated. At least it might have injected a bit of interest and appreciation back in some fans if we'd been out of the league for a year. It's now clear why us and Everton appear to be the most grumpy fans at the moment as we've both been here the longest with nothing to shout about. Yet we've performed far better than most that's ever graced this division. I fear us and them are the 1st in a host of teams whose support will become increasingly down and eventually detached if things go on the way they are.

[bertlambshank]

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

A more pertinent question is "How long can we blame him for?"

We have had more than enough time to get over the way he left.

[London Villan]

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

Are people still going to be blaming Martin O'Neill in 10 years time?

Sadly I think the answer is yes.

A more pertinent question is "How long can we blame him for?"

We have had more than enough time to get over the way he left.

Appointing the club's most unpopular manager probably wasn't the best way of getting over it though.

[luke25]

Some of the comments in this thread make me think we'd have been better off doing a Newcastle and getting relegated. At least it might have injected a bit of interest and appreciation back in some fans if we'd been out of the league for a year. It's now clear why us and Everton appear to be the most grumpy fans at the moment as we've both been here the longest with nothing to shout about. Yet we've performed far better than most that's ever graced this division. I fear us and them are the 1st in a host of teams whose support will become increasingly down and eventually detached if things go on the way they are.

I said something similar to this last season and got crucified for it.