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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #465 on: April 14, 2023, 11:45:30 AM »
I'm sure the full story has been pieced together over the years, but I don't understand a player on Hutton's wages told only to train, and Lambert claiming it was purely financial. Firstly, was there really that much of those wages being supplied by appearances, and secondly, why did that mean you had to put him with the under 23's?

He also said that there were others in the squad on double what he was earning, so not even as though he was on mega money and had to be moved on.

You can tell he thinks Lambert was a total weasel.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #466 on: April 14, 2023, 11:47:12 AM »
I'm sure the full story has been pieced together over the years, but I don't understand a player on Hutton's wages told only to train, and Lambert claiming it was purely financial. Firstly, was there really that much of those wages being supplied by appearances, and secondly, why did that mean you had to put him with the under 23's?

He also said that there were others in the squad on double what he was earning, so not even as though he was on mega money and had to be moved on.

You can tell he thinks Lambert was a total weasel.

It's nice to hear interviews like that, that back up the general mood of the fans at the time.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #467 on: April 14, 2023, 12:03:51 PM »
I'm sure the full story has been pieced together over the years, but I don't understand a player on Hutton's wages told only to train, and Lambert claiming it was purely financial. Firstly, was there really that much of those wages being supplied by appearances, and secondly, why did that mean you had to put him with the under 23's?

He also said that there were others in the squad on double what he was earning, so not even as though he was on mega money and had to be moved on.

You can tell he thinks Lambert was a total weasel.

It's nice to hear interviews like that, that back up the general mood of the fans at the time.

Reflected rather well in his own puzzlement at the Guardiola-lite playing it out from the back.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #468 on: April 14, 2023, 12:09:07 PM »
Interesting (if a bit odd) that he was a lot more effusive about Bruce as a manager than he was Smith. The latter he suggested was possibly a bit too nice and close to certain players.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #469 on: April 14, 2023, 12:22:42 PM »
That did give me pause. I suspect Smith was a good man-manager type just as Bruce was, but maybe Hutton was less a part of it due to his injury. After something good has been achieved without certain players, it's probably difficult for managers to see equal worth in them.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #470 on: April 14, 2023, 12:30:19 PM »
Interesting point made about Villa’s first season in Prem, he felt he could be an old experienced head to help support the team. Think this would have worked well, he did intimate that Dean regretted the decision to let him go.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #471 on: April 14, 2023, 12:42:41 PM »
Interesting point made about Villa’s first season in Prem, he felt he could be an old experienced head to help support the team. Think this would have worked well, he did intimate that Dean regretted the decision to let him go.

It probably would have been a decent idea, but I'm sure if we'd have been flying he wouldn't have given a seconds thought to Hutton's experience. A case of "if I knew then..."

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #472 on: April 14, 2023, 12:56:42 PM »
Am I being harsh in that as much I recognise he is probably a lovely bloke & worked hard as a player, but I was overjoyed when he retired. I always thought he was shit. Even "that' goal didn't change my mind... I know plenty of Villa supporting people who are lovely people & work hard, but I wouldn't want any of them playing for Villa...

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #473 on: April 14, 2023, 12:57:10 PM »
Is it not just a case of players always seem to prefer the managers who play them most of the time? I could be misremembering,  but wasn't Elmo Dean's preferred first choice right-back from the time we started our long winning run when Grealish returned? Not sure how much he played after that.  Always a solid player for us I thought, and yes, that Blues goal was incredible.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #474 on: April 14, 2023, 01:43:15 PM »
Let's not sugar-coat it: Hutton the person exceeds Hutton the talent. Which, on further thought, is no bad thing.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2023, 01:45:14 PM by curiousorange »

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #475 on: April 14, 2023, 01:45:45 PM »
He was decent enough in the Championship, which I suspect was about his level really.

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« Reply #476 on: April 14, 2023, 01:53:01 PM »
I do recall when he was first at Spuds he was highly-rated. But he wouldn't have been the first Tottenham signing to be overhyped.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #477 on: April 14, 2023, 02:08:34 PM »
Another one of those who gets tagged as poor when he was anything but. Not helped by the era he was with us.

I always liked him as a player, but it sometimes feels like we tend to go to the extremes in our view of full backs.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #478 on: April 14, 2023, 02:24:51 PM »
Good pro, seems a decent bloke, strikes me he'd always give his all on the pitch but was a limited player. The club treated him very badly it has to be said. At the same time he was poor in the PL for us, did well for us without being outstanding in the Championship and the fact no one took him on when he left us probably says a fair bit. If every player back then had his attitude we probably wouldn't have stunk the league out for years, if every player had his ability we'd probably have dropped a lot sooner.

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Re: Alan Hutton the Scottish Cafu Retires
« Reply #479 on: April 14, 2023, 02:31:18 PM »
As Hutton says in the interview, there was a bit of a 'them and us' situation with the young French lads (almost certainly not helped by Eric Black) and I think Hutton at the time got unfairly lumped in with the real wasters like Lescott.

 


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