Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[old man villa fan]

I must admit from that still photo posted by goodie it does look as though herd may not be as innocent as first appeared.

Got to say just had a good long hard look at this from 1.10 onwards and if that was an opposing defender doing that on a Villa player i would be screaming blue murder, well done the poster for sticking that up, because it certainly looks the right decision, not only does Herd put his foot in the first time you can see he glances down at Olson the 2nd time, with his boot left in, so its difficult to explain that he couldn't have seen what he was doing.

who knows......

Yeh, and the Albion player got up straight away and played on.  Obviously he didn't think there was anything wrong.

[Tony]

On a positive note, the Harry Moseley tribute was well observed by both sets of fans.

[PaulWinch again]

Just got home.   Nightmare journey missed most of the first half thanks to the entire M11 being closed for roadworks.   Came in just in time not to see whatever it was Dowd and the linesman thought they saw justified a penalty and the sending off of Herd.


The myth that McLeish tightens defences is exposed for what it is - a myth.   No team spirit, no leadership, N'Zogbia showing once again that he was the worst premiership purchase of the summer, Petrov's idea of a killer pass is to a man ten yards behind him and Emile Heskey supposed to be playing as a holding left midfielder but looking like half a pantomime horse charging round looking for his front end.

Eight hours driving and sixtyfive quidsworth of petrol to see that.

Well put Brian, especially getting across the hopelessness of it all.

[Villanation]

I must admit from that still photo posted by goodie it does look as though herd may not be as innocent as first appeared.

Got to say just had a good long hard look at this from 1.10 onwards and if that was an opposing defender doing that on a Villa player i would be screaming blue murder, well done the poster for sticking that up, because it certainly looks the right decision, not only does Herd put his foot in the first time you can see he glances down at Olson the 2nd time, with his boot left in, so its difficult to explain that he couldn't have seen what he was doing.

who knows......

Yeh, and the Albion player got up straight away and played on.  Obviously he didn't think there was anything wrong.

I agree the lack response from the Albion player does definitely bring it into question, I would also agree that its impossible to say what was in Herds mind, when at 1.14 you can see him look down at Olson, I also agree the linesman could not have had a clear view of it as Olson must have had is body in the way, and would also make the point in just how much these players where directly involved in play at that time, he obviously saw something, rightly or wrongly and apparently they are going to do an in depth look at it on MOTD, so that may make it clearer.

Don't agree about 10 men v 11, many times in football it happens when not only does 10 men play well, its often the case they play better and even more determined.

[rutski]

I must admit from that still photo posted by goodie it does look as though herd may not be as innocent as first appeared.

Got to say just had a good long hard look at this from 1.10 onwards and if that was an opposing defender doing that on a Villa player i would be screaming blue murder, well done the poster for sticking that up, because it certainly looks the right decision, not only does Herd put his foot in the first time you can see he glances down at Olson the 2nd time, with his boot left in, so its difficult to explain that he couldn't have seen what he was doing.

who knows......

Yeh, and the Albion player got up straight away and played on.  Obviously he didn't think there was anything wrong.

I agree the lack response from the Albion player does definitely bring it into question, I would also agree that its impossible to say what was in Herds mind, when at 1.14 you can see him look down at Olson, I also agree the linesman could not have had a clear view of it as Olson must have had is body in the way, and would also make the point in just how much these players where directly involved in play at that time, he obviously saw something, rightly or wrongly and apparently they are going to do an in depth look at it on MOTD, so that may make it clearer.

Don't agree about 10 men v 11, many times in football it happens when not only does 10 men play well, its often the case they play better and even more determined.

i hope you aint on the jury in my murder trial as with all the evidence showing you still bleeding think there may be 'just'something. Bollocks, just admit you are wrong and there is jack all penalty and the lineo and ref are wankers!

[Greg N'Ash]

Unless the linesman is a mindreader you'd have to say it was an extremely harsh sending off. Again, we should have been playing with 10 men anyway to my mind so them's the breaks Yes we were at a disadvantage but we didn't muster anything in the 2nd half. If we'd given it a good go and still lost, then we could convincingly moan that it cost us the game but we didn't.  Even  teams with only 9 men have been known to get a shot on goal

[MarkM]

I said it earlier, from my view it did look like he stamped. I say 'looked like' I have not seen it apart from live at the match yet.

My view although higher up was in a similar line as the linesman.

Will watch on MOTD

[PaulTheVillan]

I said it earlier, from my view it did look like he stamped. I say 'looked like' I have not seen it apart from live at the match yet.

My view although higher up was in a similar line as the linesman.

Will watch on MOTD

I agree. Im down the front of L6 and thought the same.

[peckvillajunior]

Decent until the sending-off, abysmal after. The lack of even an attempt to control possession worries me, along with the lack of any spark or enthusiasm in our play. In comparison to supposedly worse teams such as Norwich (a composite Villa/Norwich XI would have a conspicuous lack of yellow shirts in it) who somehow know how to pass on the ground, move off the ball and generally play with some energy and enterprise.

Dunne was very good though, and Carlos did reasonably well on his return. That's about that for the positives. If someone can name one thing that Hutton does well they deserve some sort of medal.

[Villanation]

I said it earlier, from my view it did look like he stamped. I say 'looked like' I have not seen it apart from live at the match yet.

My view although higher up was in a similar line as the linesman.

Will watch on MOTD

Precisely, because if you can't see it at the game and its not 100% clear from the vid then it only needs some bright spark to come up with a, this happened, and people look like an idiot, will be interesting to see what they come up with, on the face of it the sending of looks harsh.

We will see.

[The Left Side]

Hutton and NZogbia are both AM signings, they are both suspect and considering we had younger players like Lichaj, Herd and Albrighton then I don't think they have brought anything better to the team. AM's decisions and formations are questionable to say the least, it summed it up for me by playing Heskey in midfield today. Football is slowly dying as players have all the power and the clubs don't give a stuff for the fans, RL needs to deal with the issues or else a storm will be coming straight for B6.

[Simba]

Villa in control until sending off. Herd a find. A real player and I like him (said a month ago) in midfield.

Let it go. Positive approach, Bannan confident and creative. Herd will be a big 'un, nice to see Carlos much better than his 'replacement'. Dunne and Collins superb.

Stupid ref/ linesman decision. If he had stamped there would have been a reaction from Albion players. Nothing.

A bad day but until the sending off we were good. Even I can't blame the result on the Manager and in fact I think it was a positive team he put out. Benty should have scored and we would have been on top.

Pissed off but no blame today. Except for PD

[Chris Harte]

Dying to know what happened with the red card. One friend next to me reckoned he kicked the Boggie up in the air. Some guy behind me said he stamped on him. Most around me hadn't got a clue what happened.

The decision changed the direction of the game for sure as we didn't muster a single (even wayward) shoot on goal after the red card.

And if we can't defend from set pieces.......

[Chipsticks]

Dying to know what happened with the red card. One friend next to me reckoned he kicked the Boggie up in the air. Some guy behind me said he stamped on him. Most around me hadn't got a clue what happened.

The decision changed the direction of the game for sure as we didn't muster a single (even wayward) shoot on goal after the red card.

And if we can't defend from set pieces.......

When have we ever been able to defend set pieces?

[PeterWithesShin]

I can't help but wonder why we have Bannan in the box when we're defending set plays. What's he going to do, jump as high as he can and head an opposition player in the bollocks? He should be just outside the area with Gabby left up high in case we get the chance to counter and that still leaves 9 (or 8 for an hour today) to defend in the box.