Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[Eigentor]

Heskey in holding midfield. What?

Maybe the Beckenbauer analogy has been taken too far.

[Greg N'Ash]

looking at our fixtures up to the new year its not looking promising. Norwich at home looks the only real banker but with the way we're playing and their form i'm not sure we can even count on that. Reckon AM has got till the end of November before the knives really come out.

[ktvillan]

I'm sure the linesman had his flag up for that Bent shot (doesn't excuse Bent missing it though). I just assumed that because the ball went out of play anyway they just played on rather than give the free kick.

Completely wrong. If he had his flag up he was incompetent.  Bent was clearly played on side by two defenders. It was a bad miss,and would have counted if it had gone in.

[Vanilla]

we were well in control today. the sending off changed everything. all this bleating about tactics is bullshit! so disappointed in the black country here and i had to come home with the twats!
watched the sending off incident 20 times and the linesman and dowd are arseholes! what the fuck does he think he saw? both players just get up and jog towards the edge of the area. i am so angry i cannot believe it! Wankers!

Spurs won at a canter against us last season, even though they played most of the game with 10 men. Olbian beat us at their end with 10 men. Going down to 10 men is a good test of character. Villa obviously have none whatsoever.

You would have thought we would have gone all out for a goal, being a derby and all that. The fact that our tactics didn't change after we first went down to 10 men, shows we were playing like we had 10 men anyway.

Also, the non-existant depth to our squad is showing already, and it's only October is worrying.

We have yet to play anyone of note, apart from Citeh, and we were found wanting in that game.

[Fin Feds Dad]

And Norwich just got a draw at anfield.

I have just had a look at the opta stats link from the page before - and those are the figures for the games played so far - apart from Man City I havent seen a decent player yet - says it all.

Worrying times.

[Chris Smith]

we were well in control today. the sending off changed everything. all this bleating about tactics is bullshit! so disappointed in the black country here and i had to come home with the twats!
watched the sending off incident 20 times and the linesman and dowd are arseholes! what the fuck does he think he saw? both players just get up and jog towards the edge of the area. i am so angry i cannot believe it! Wankers!

Agree mate, I can't be arsed to read the thread and see people try to fit it to their pet theories. Shit refereeing dd for us today. We're not a strong or confident enough side to deal with playing with 10 mem for an hour.

[Goldie.7]

I'm not convinced Foster shouldn't have gone. Watch the slow mo on this and I reckon Gabby would have had the chance of a shot as their player was basically stood still when Gabby nicked it.
Also has the Herd challenge on.

Looks like a stamp at 1:12 to me?

[eastie]

Yes the referee and linesman were wrong on herd but that said I would expect far more from ten men against an average Albion team - no shots on target apart from the penalty is simply not good enough- the fixtures have been kind and just 2 wins against the worst teams in the division suggests a long hard winter of discontent lies ahead.

[ktvillan]

we were well in control today. the sending off changed everything. all this bleating about tactics is bullshit! so disappointed in the black country here and i had to come home with the twats!
watched the sending off incident 20 times and the linesman and dowd are arseholes! what the fuck does he think he saw? both players just get up and jog towards the edge of the area. i am so angry i cannot believe it! Wankers!

Agree mate, I can't be arsed to read the thread and see people try to fit it to their pet theories. Shit refereeing dd for us today. We're not a strong or confident enough side to deal with playing with 10 mem for an hour.

Yep a decent referee in all future games and no red cards and our woeful deficiencies defending set pieces, retaining possession or mustering a shot on target from open play will miraculously disappear.  All sorted then, nothing to worry about.

[nick harper]

We play no passing football whatsoever. Hit and hope - and that was before we went down to 10 men. We will be in the bottom six by Xmas playing the way we do.

We show absolutey no movement off the ball either. It was never great under MON but it's even worse now.

One final point -no-one will convince me that Makoun couldn't have played a significant part in this squad. We are crying out for someone who can help us keep the ball.

[Lobsterboy]

we were well in control today. the sending off changed everything. all this bleating about tactics is bullshit! so disappointed in the black country here and i had to come home with the twats!
watched the sending off incident 20 times and the linesman and dowd are arseholes! what the fuck does he think he saw? both players just get up and jog towards the edge of the area. i am so angry i cannot believe it! Wankers!

Agree mate, I can't be arsed to read the thread and see people try to fit it to their pet theories. Shit refereeing dd for us today. We're not a strong or confident enough side to deal with playing with 10 mem for an hour.

I'll second/third that; we were looking comfortable until the comedy sending off/penalty decision and I am so angry at today's result.

Yes we were piss poor in the second half but let's look at that in the context of what went on in the first half. No doubt Herd's red card will be rescinded but it's all a bit late then and only bound to make me more angry!

No idea what to make of today really but never ever want to see Phil Dowd anywhere near a Villa game again

[eastie]

I must admit from that still photo posted by goodie it does look as though herd may not be as innocent as first appeared.

[old man villa fan]

I said it after last weeks game but was chastised for it, when something goes against us we do not have the bottle to come back fighting.  Where is the team spirit.  We are a team of individuals who just want to play their own game and not help others.

We have two experienced central defenders who cannot organise a defence for set-pieces.  How many time do we get caught flat-footed.

I always belief that you can judge how good a player is by looking at his weakest points, not his strongest.

[Villanation]

Fact of it is, regardless of the events that took place during the first half the 2nd half was a whole new ball game, any team can be organized to soak up the pressure and more often than not 10 men can be better than 11, the team was tactically inept for the 2nd 45, we got overrun, thing also to remember for a fair spell in the 2nd half WBA lost a lot of momentum, a better team at home would have made them pay for that, I'm amazed we didn't lose by a lot more, fortunately this was Albion, dread to think what would have happened if we were playing one of the top sides.

We are away to Sunderland next, I wouldn't hold to much hope out on that one, then we really are in a spin, this could get very murky indeed.

[rutski]

We play no passing football whatsoever. Hit and hope - and that was before we went down to 10 men. We will be in the bottom six by Xmas playing the way we do.

We show absolutey no movement off the ball either. It was never great under MON but it's even worse now.

One final point -no-one will convince me that Makoun couldn't have played a significant part in this squad. We are crying out for someone who can help us keep the ball.

sorry nick, were you watching the same game? bannons shot, bents effort over the bar and only a shot over the bar from 30 yards from the albion. who cares what anyone thinks about the game after the sending off, we were fucked and if you think any team plays a tight passing game with ten men for 63 minutes you are on different planet!