Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Chris Smith]

I think you're confusing individual errors with performance, Greg.

[Greg N'Ash]

I think you're confusing individual errors with performance, Greg.

we were bobbins even without certain players given them a helping hand. Don't know what AM's game plan was apart from "try to keep the goals against in single figures"

[Chris Smith]

I think you're confusing individual errors with performance, Greg.

we were bobbins even without certain players given them a helping hand. Don't know what AM's game plan was apart from "try to keep the goals against in single figures"

We were the better side in the first half, we then gave away two bad goals just after half time and undid all the good work. As I said, we lost one game and despite your attempts to turn it in to something wider it was no more or less significant than winning the previous one.

[PeterWithesShin]

  I am amazed that people cannot see we are a soft touch these days.  As soon as something goes against us, our heads drop and they give up.  What happened to fighting spirit.

That's just not true. Our last two away games have seen us come from behind to get a point. As ever people try to extrapolate far too much from one game. You're just twisting the facts to suit a viewpoint.

Man City are a better team than us, in fact they've probably got two teams better than the first team of all but 3 or 4 other clubs. Poor defending cost us a couple of goals yesterday but they've been strong most of the season so I'm prepared to cut them some slack. I think all that did was change the score, not the result. If it had been a tighter game they had Silva, Nasri and Dzeko to bring on to exploit a tiring defence. I think those not getting their knickers in a twist are just being realistic.

No they haven't, we led at QPR and threw it away. The only league games we've gone behind in this season are Everton and yesterday.

Maybe people are twisting facts, but at least they are facts, unlike your post *winky*

[Greg N'Ash]

Hang one, wasn't crap defensive mistakes what AM was brought in to stop? bottom line is Citeh will play better than that this season and lose. they were average and even thier stats bare it out- they hardly dominated us with possession or shots on goals and yet as certain commentators have said already it was embarrassing at times. I'm not trying to turn it into anything apart from it being a rotten performance with a poor team selection and formation. whoever the oppossition was and their current bank balance is immaterial

[Pete3206]

Although the Man City fan makes a good case, the fact is that someone with unlimited wealth has turned up and is literally buying all the top prizes in football like it was some casual purchase. How can that be good for the game? Whatever Man City win now, it won't mean anything. No managerial genius, no team building, no real achievement. Just throw the cash on the table and collect the trophies.

Nice thought, but people only remember the trophies and not how they did it. Take Ferguson's first title, spent a fortune in those days on the likes of pallister, bruce, Ince, Keane as well as all the big money purchases that failed to make the grade - probably would top Citeh's spending if you tried to buy the same type of players now.. Does anyone say ManU bought the league?

No, but by the time they won the league, they had been trying for over 20 years. Also, their main title rivals that season were Villa and Norwich City. Two clubs who now have absolutely no chance of competing again.

[Greg N'Ash]

Although the Man City fan makes a good case, the fact is that someone with unlimited wealth has turned up and is literally buying all the top prizes in football like it was some casual purchase. How can that be good for the game? Whatever Man City win now, it won't mean anything. No managerial genius, no team building, no real achievement. Just throw the cash on the table and collect the trophies.

Nice thought, but people only remember the trophies and not how they did it. Take Ferguson's first title, spent a fortune in those days on the likes of pallister, bruce, Ince, Keane as well as all the big money purchases that failed to make the grade - probably would top Citeh's spending if you tried to buy the same type of players now.. Does anyone say ManU bought the league?

No, but by the time they won the league, they had been trying for over 20 years. Also, their main title rivals that season were Villa and Norwich City. Two clubs who now have absolutely no chance of competing again.

by the same token if some revenue connected rules had been bought in mid-80's along the lines they're talking about now, the likes of chelsea, blackburn citeh, etc would never have won anything or been able to compete and the likes of United and Liverpool would have dominated even more. Not sure whats worse but 20 years of every trophy ending up shared between those two doesn't exactly strike me as a great alternative to the current state of affairs

[olaftab]

The difference should  be by how much a club earns in gate receipts not injection of enormous  unaccountable funds.

Why weren't you arguing this when Randy was injecting tens of millions of pounds into us then?

He only invested funds that could be serviced by the Club earnings. There were no  "gifted" cash funds given to Villa with no need to payback like Chelsea and Mancity.

[barrysleftfoot]

   With Gabby, Bent, Bannan, Ireland and N'Zog we have a good strikeforce in there somewhere, the water carriers alongside them need to be better.But they are no Balotelli, Silva, Nasri et al.

  It would'nt surprise me if Citeeeh go the whole Prem season undefeated.

[Mister E]

   With Gabby, Bent, Bannan, Ireland and N'Zog we have a good strikeforce in there somewhere, the water carriers alongside them need to be better.

Yeah, watching the Barcodes right now, the combo of Tiote and Cabaye really looks good in the MF centre. We're currently light in the area that we effectively disinvested in over the summer; and in which we've actually been weak for several seasons.

[Greg N'Ash]

   With Gabby, Bent, Bannan, Ireland and N'Zog we have a good strikeforce in there somewhere, the water carriers alongside them need to be better.But they are no Balotelli, Silva, Nasri et al.

  It would'nt surprise me if Citeeeh go the whole Prem season undefeated.

we'll see how they do against manu away next week. Personally i don't think they've got a hope in hell of staying unbeaten all season.

[Mister E]

   With Gabby, Bent, Bannan, Ireland and N'Zog we have a good strikeforce in there somewhere, the water carriers alongside them need to be better.But they are no Balotelli, Silva, Nasri et al.

  It would'nt surprise me if Citeeeh go the whole Prem season undefeated.

we'll see how they do against manu away next week. Personally i don't think they've got a hope in hell of staying unbeaten all season.

For a team that had not conceded at home, their defence showed one or two weaknesses yesterday but I felt - like several others who were on the match thread - that they always had another gear to go to if required. They'll defo be 'in the mix' come May, unbeaten or not.

[tarzansbrother]

Although the Man City fan makes a good case, the fact is that someone with unlimited wealth has turned up and is literally buying all the top prizes in football like it was some casual purchase. How can that be good for the game? Whatever Man City win now, it won't mean anything. No managerial genius, no team building, no real achievement. Just throw the cash on the table and collect the trophies.

Spot on. When that fat balloon head David Platt can start making out he is a coaching genius football is in trouble.

[Ads]

What a waste of bandwidth, arguing about a performance at City? Two wins in twenty odd years.

From Moss Side to Beswick, we're shit in Manchester, it's the law.

[Mister E]

... that fat balloon head David Platt ...

He he; made me chuckle.