Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

Most people I've spoken to today thought that Delph was our best player apart from Bannan.

Maybe he wasn't that bad after all.

I saw Robbie Savage bigging him up on MOTD2, and was very surprised.

Then I remembered, it was Robbie Savage.

[Chris Smith]

Delph took the wrong option a couple of times but I thought that in the second half his industry was a large part of our improvement. There's plenty of room for improvement but I've been surprised at how much criticism he's received.

[Clampy]

Delph took the wrong option a couple of times but I thought that in the second half his industry was a large part of our improvement. There's plenty of room for improvement but I've been surprised at how much criticism he's received.

I'm not surprised, there's some who were even criticising Hutton after 2 games. N'Zogbia and Ireland have been the two main disapointments so far this season and Ireland put more of a shift in yesterday and looked a better player for it.

[Risso]

Delph hasn't set the world on fire, but is hardly the biggest problem in the team.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Second half we played better than the first half, but that doesn't mean it was any good. It just means it was slightly better than dross. People saying they saw big improvement second half and were pleased with McLeish are fucking mental, we didn't have a shot on target in open play for christ sake and we played ok for about 15 minutes. Some people must be easily pleased.

And some people are easily displeased.  They even seem to enjoy it.  If I recall, BCV, you practically had the bingo markers and bedsheets out the moment McLeish was appointed, so it's no surprise you're refusing to spot any signs of improvement.  If the guy won us the FA Cup this season you'd complain that his tie was a bit wonky during the presentation.  You seriously couldn't see any improvement in the second half?  After that diabolical first half?  And you call us "mental"?  (Actually, we're all mental - it means "of the mind".  You probably mean "mentally retarded" or "mentally impaired").  I'm not saying we're playing well, I've been completely underwhelmed by our start to the season, but there were definite signs in the second half that we are capable of playing decent football.  I don't know how you can dispute there was a "big improvement".  No one's saying we're suddenly world beaters, just that we look like we might have a clue after all.  I'll take any crumb of comfort at the moment.  Why do you insist on being negative even when there are positives to be found?  Be gone, you miserable man, and follow Small Heath, who will provide you with the misery you so clearly crave, to a level you never thought possible.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Second half we played better than the first half, but that doesn't mean it was any good. It just means it was slightly better than dross. People saying they saw big improvement second half and were pleased with McLeish are fucking mental, we didn't have a shot on target in open play for christ sake and we played ok for about 15 minutes. Some people must be easily pleased.

Other than it being more like 20-25 minutes, I pretty much agree.

QPR are a poor side.

A poor side playing with confidence. I look forward to a Villa side doing the same.

[TimTheVillain]

Second half we played better than the first half, but that doesn't mean it was any good. It just means it was slightly better than dross. People saying they saw big improvement second half and were pleased with McLeish are fucking mental, we didn't have a shot on target in open play for christ sake and we played ok for about 15 minutes. Some people must be easily pleased.

Other than it being more like 20-25 minutes, I pretty much agree.

QPR are a poor side.

A poor side playing with confidence. I look forward to a Villa side doing the same.

QPR are a decent striker, GK and central defender short of being an average side.

Agree, they have the 'we're in the Prem now don't you know' confidence while, the Villa are -  'we're trying to get our shit together for our new Manager, we do have the talent - honest' .

16,700 gate - their best so far, they're a London version of Blackpool, a club who used to be decent but just aren't anymore.

Oh and Albrighton - what's happened to him in 2011 ??



 

[richard moore]

Second half we played better than the first half, but that doesn't mean it was any good. It just means it was slightly better than dross. People saying they saw big improvement second half and were pleased with McLeish are fucking mental, we didn't have a shot on target in open play for christ sake and we played ok for about 15 minutes. Some people must be easily pleased.

Other than it being more like 20-25 minutes, I pretty much agree.

QPR are a poor side.

A poor side playing with confidence. I look forward to a Villa side doing the same.

Well, exactly. Of course they are a poor side when one considers things overall but that makes no allowance at all for promoted teams often getting off to good starts, them being in form and the 'talk of the papers' for most of this week. Even Sky cottoned on to that and approached the whole of their coverage from the angle of 'promoted team on the rise with lots of good new players'. If we think back to last season, Blackpool were, by definition, a poor team overall as they were relegated, but you wouldn't have wanted to face them at this stage last season when they were rolling quite a few good teams over as I recollect....

[Chris Smith]

QPR are not a bad side at all, I'm not sure what the evidence is for them being poor. Since the transfer window they've outplayed Newcastle and Wolves and us for 45 minutes. I think you're being a little condescending to call them poor.

[UsualSuspect]

TBH as far as some of the critisism of Hutton goes, as an experienced player I expect him to have a basic idea of what he should be doing and be fit.

In the general world of business if you are interviewed for a job, get the job and start then the company expect you to deliver pretty much right away, not say to you just potter along for a bit and if you're a bit shit that's okay

[Chris Smith]

TBH as far as some of the critisism of Hutton goes, as an experienced player I expect him to have a basic idea of what he should be doing and be fit.

In the general world of business if you are interviewed for a job, get the job and start then the company expect you to deliver pretty much right away, not say to you just potter along for a bit and if you're a bit shit that's okay

What a load of bollocks, firstly the analogy is irrelevant and secondly it's not true. In any job you will have a period of settling in and acclimatisation and elite sport is not the same as business.

[Merv]

QPR aren't bad. What I'll add to the debate is that Sunday was probably the worst time to face them - new signings playing, off the back of an impressive away victory, Sky TV cameras at Loftus Road, big occasion for them, etc. The day was all about QPR.

[LeeB]

QPR aren't bad. What I'll add to the debate is that Sunday was probably the worst time to face them - new signings playing, off the back of an impressive away victory, Sky TV cameras at Loftus Road, big occasion for them, etc. The day was all about QPR.

True, and usually we oblige and roll over so I'm happy to see we've got a backbone.

It goes a long way in this league.

[Concrete John]

Delph took the wrong option a couple of times but I thought that in the second half his industry was a large part of our improvement. There's plenty of room for improvement but I've been surprised at how much criticism he's received.

I'm not surprised, there's some who were even criticising Hutton after 2 games. N'Zogbia and Ireland have been the two main disapointments so far this season and Ireland put more of a shift in yesterday and looked a better player for it.

I agree, and that could largely explain why we've been a bit blunt attacking wise so far this season.

As for Delph, I thought he started the season well and then had a stinker or two, particularly at Everton.  Problem with that is with some fans you need to put in a McGrath like performance to make up for it or your 'shit again', when in truth I think he's done OK the last couple of games.  Not great - just OK! 

[N'ZMAV]

QPR aren't bad. What I'll add to the debate is that Sunday was probably the worst time to face them - new signings playing, off the back of an impressive away victory, Sky TV cameras at Loftus Road, big occasion for them, etc. The day was all about QPR.

This result wasn't the end of the world, it was very disappointing, but I saw a lot of positives in the second half. Seems like the players are responding to a good kick up the arse, shame they need this though.

Ireland wasn't too bad. N'Zogbia was poor, again, and Albrighton doesn't seem himself, there's obviously something wrong there, or maybe he just needs games. Impressed with the charector. However, most of these early season games should have been wins, we're lacking something. Square pegs... round holes...