Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Villanation]

The match was dire for most part, but an away match against a newly promoted team managed by Neil Warnock is never going to be pretty.

You say it like it was them that dragged the quality of the game down and wasted time, when it was the opposite. We looked like the promoted side for much of the game.

To be fair if it was roles reversed and we were the home side, people on here would be seething with the amount they created. They looked completely toothless.

Yes, QPR was far from a threat. With a bit discipline and organization we could have easily avoided the equaliser. Yet we were in disarray, the end of the match was end-to-end when we should have been controlling. So when Collins lost a duel, Dunne was completely in the wrong position, running towards his own goal, and then we know what happens.

It was end to end but was that due to the fact that we where still trying to win the game, away from home and closing a game is always a very dangerous risky business, I thought we lost our shape a little towards the end but then I thought QPR did also because they had to press the game.

I thought the 2nd half was the best example this season of our tenacity and strength in the team, it's how this pans out v Wigan which will tell the tale.

[Villanation]

I don't think there was anything 'lovely' in that game.
3 or 4 decent passing movements in a 90 minute match ,for me does not constitute a brave new dawn.
Even the shittest teams have one or two movements in a game that are less shit than the rest of the time.

We have gone so far backwards, any semblence of anything decent is being exaggerated.

After the Bolton game any signs of improvement shouldn't be under estimated.   Today we saw a small glimmer of light of how the team can play.   (although taking Bannan off was plain fucking stupid)

Agree.

[Greg N'Ash]

2nd half was an improvement on Bolton. 1st half was just as bad imo. Got to remember is if we play like that against a team with strikers it won't matter if we're better in the 2nd half - we'll already be 2 or 3 nil down.

[Eigentor]

The match was dire for most part, but an away match against a newly promoted team managed by Neil Warnock is never going to be pretty.

You say it like it was them that dragged the quality of the game down and wasted time, when it was the opposite. We looked like the promoted side for much of the game.

To be fair if it was roles reversed and we were the home side, people on here would be seething with the amount they created. They looked completely toothless.

Yes, QPR was far from a threat. With a bit discipline and organization we could have easily avoided the equaliser. Yet we were in disarray, the end of the match was end-to-end when we should have been controlling. So when Collins lost a duel, Dunne was completely in the wrong position, running towards his own goal, and then we know what happens.

It was end to end but was that due to the fact that we where still trying to win the game, away from home and closing a game is always a very dangerous risky business, I thought we lost our shape a little towards the end but then I thought QPR did also because they had to press the game.

I thought the 2nd half was the best example this season of our tenacity and strength in the team, it's how this pans out v Wigan which will tell the tale.

The 2nd half was much better, I agree. If we build on this and manage to find some defensive balance in midfield, then there's a decent Premier League team there. And that's probably the best we can hope for considering how decimated the team has been during the summer.

[Villanation]

The match was dire for most part, but an away match against a newly promoted team managed by Neil Warnock is never going to be pretty.

You say it like it was them that dragged the quality of the game down and wasted time, when it was the opposite. We looked like the promoted side for much of the game.

To be fair if it was roles reversed and we were the home side, people on here would be seething with the amount they created. They looked completely toothless.

Yes, QPR was far from a threat. With a bit discipline and organization we could have easily avoided the equaliser. Yet we were in disarray, the end of the match was end-to-end when we should have been controlling. So when Collins lost a duel, Dunne was completely in the wrong position, running towards his own goal, and then we know what happens.

It was end to end but was that due to the fact that we where still trying to win the game, away from home and closing a game is always a very dangerous risky business, I thought we lost our shape a little towards the end but then I thought QPR did also because they had to press the game.

I thought the 2nd half was the best example this season of our tenacity and strength in the team, it's how this pans out v Wigan which will tell the tale.

The 2nd half was much better, I agree. If we build on this and manage to find some defensive balance in midfield, then there's a decent Premier League team there. And that's probably the best we can hope for considering how decimated the team has been during the summer.

Agree

[hawkeye]

can someone explain the tactics and substitutions for the last 20 minutes

[manic-road]

Just back from game, first half was poor. But second half the Villa were much brighter and playing some decent stuff at times.
Ireland spent much of the first half argueing with Stan, i reckon A M gave the team a bollocking at half time judging by the way they started the second half.

[Chris Smith]

can someone explain the tactics and substitutions for the last 20 minutes

We took off a youngster who had also played on Tuesday and replaced him with a player who should be able to benefit from running at a tired defence.

[hawkeye]

can someone explain the tactics and substitutions for the last 20 minutes

We took off a youngster who had also played on Tuesday and replaced him with a player who should be able to benefit from running at a tired defence.

brilliant

and what was weimen doing

[Brend'Watkins]

A fair result all considered.  Some good stuff 2nd half albeit Delph has gone from being a liability to someone who frightens me when the ball comes near him.  Why can't he just play it simple and look for the easy pass instead of trying some flick or other such shit that never comes off?  Hutton too is no better than any of the kids that could fill in at right back, far too many mistakes.

On a positive note, I'm looking forward to what Barry Bannan could become for us and there are signs that Ireland can be the player we thought he might be.  We'd have won that game comfortably with Bent in the side, I hope he's back next week.

[Eigentor]

can someone explain the tactics and substitutions for the last 20 minutes

McLeish was trying to get a second goal. However, the problem is that our central midfield lack any sort of tactical awareness. Both Petrov, Delph and Ireland were out of position when QPR countered. So the result was end-to-end football and quite risky. I would have liked to see Gardner. It's not ideal to throw in youngster to defend an away lead, but a bit more discipline in midfield, and we would have won IMO.

[Greg N'Ash]

I just hope AM puts delph out to pasture. Does nothing IMO. Another transfer masterclass from MON - 6m on a guy not much more effective than osbourne.

[Legion]

Not impressed with Hutton or Delph at all.

[Chris Smith]

can someone explain the tactics and substitutions for the last 20 minutes

We took off a youngster who had also played on Tuesday and replaced him with a player who should be able to benefit from running at a tired defence.

brilliant

I think that's going too far, pragmatic is the word I'd use.

[PaulWinch again]

Not impressed with Hutton or Delph at all.

No they were not good. Hutton was extremely worrying.