Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Lambert and Payne]

I don't see how Eck can get slagged for this. Their goal was sloppy and tired defence. Not much he could do about an akward bounce. Also we attacked when we scored and we were attacking until the end. It was end to end when we scored

Am I the only one who thinks collins had a bad game, he jumps in too much, gives the ball away and fouls way too many times. The only comment I agree with Warnock on today was that he should have been walking. Whens Cuellar due back?

[jembob]

The second half showed that we can play decent football when we don't hoof the ball all over the place. We should have scored a second on the break when Marc 'Trying too hard' Albrighton and Andy Weimann could have passed it into the net if they had put some thought into their play.

The first half showed all of our worst habits - long balls, poor movement, poor control and a lack of thinking.

I'm not ready to write this season off yet as long as we can play football for 90 minutes each game.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm no McLeish fan, but he interviews well.

he obviously did well in the interview with Randy

*wink*

[PeterWithesShin]

Well that was er, interesting. The first 35 mins or so we were embarrassingly abysmal. Shocking passing and holding onto the ball led us to being under near constant pressure. Then for the last 5 mins or so and the first 20 of the second half we looked a much better side. Although we still created very little from open play.
Never a pen for me, but i'll take it when it's in our favour. Thought they should have had one for the first Hutton handball.

But why when we are playing pretty well and have just scored do we stop playing and start playing deeper? It's just asking for trouble, time wasting with 10 minutes to go? We were lucky not to be punished by any of the stupid freekicks we kept giving away. And what the fuck was Collins doing for their goal? Basic errors and negativity costs us 2 points in the end.

Bannan was superb, why the hell was he taken off, he didn't look injured to me.

Delph and Hutton, why are they starting? I thought both were shocking today. I'd rather give Gardner a go in place of Delph with Beye at RB.

[garyshawsknee]

I thought it was the other way round on the pens. Hutton had time on the first one,and did have his arms by his sides,but moved his body towards the ball and it hit his arm. second one,he was about to yards away and couldnt react.

Our pen was soft,but there was some contact and i could see why it was given,either way Warnock (n) is a cnut.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

Aren't you tired of this act yet Mark?

Absolutely, can't you and others just save it for the traditional pantomine season?

Try and get behind the team, they were throwing bodies in today like real warriors, fighting for the cause. Our fans there were superb too. We're in a difficult place at the moment, it might help if we all go behind the lads. Confidence in football is massive.

You were as critical of the team as anybody under the later days of O'Neill, and yet these days you seems to have appointed yourself as the new Chris Smith.  Your choice of course, but calling other fan "drama queens" every other post is deeply pathetic, even more so given your record.

Hardly as pathetic as some posts on here. If it helps, I'll refrain from using the term 'drama queen' and replace it with 'eunuchs', as it seems obvious some need to grow a pair. As for Chris, yes it does concern me, we're talking about a bloke that always defends the indefensible but after only 6 games, I think he may finally have found solid ground.

I'm more confident AM can get us playing some decent football, as we witnessed in parts during the second half today than I ever was under the jurrasic approach of MON. Time will tell but at least I'm prepared to give him a few games before casting my judgement, unlike the moronic approach of some who only hate him because he came from the Rags or played shit football at the Sty. We both know even Ferguson couldn't get that lot playing anything but shite football. It is who they are and always have been.

[TheSandman]

To be honest, with the number of people who are overwhelmingly negative about the club as things stand, Mark's positivity is a welcome diversion and creates some kind of balance.

And we have no shortage of members who have been calling for McLeish to go or describing him as a bluenose wanker or some such.

[richard moore]

The most remarkable thing about today's game was hearing Ray Wilkins and Brad Friedel, who I thought between them might provide some sort of analysis slightly above the normal moronic level of pre-game Sky panels, saying Wright-Phillips should be close to an England recall.

Luckily for all of us, he was as crap as ever. Mind you, that probably gets you into the England team these days

[malckennedy]

Really struggling to understand why anyone at all would question our penalty, whether that be Warnock, Wilkins or any other pratt who likes to think they can make up rules. Gabby's shirt was pulled (very clearly) which stopped any chance he had of getting on the end of the cross - fact! This is a foul - fact! It was in the penalty area so a penalty is the only correct decision - fact! Whether people want to call it "soft" or not is up to them - but it was an intentional foul in the penalty area.

Why the debate?

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Barry Bannan's energy and willingness to always want the ball means he should start every week for me. Not as a winger or as a wide midfielder but in the middle of the pitch where he can help to influence the pace in which we play. If we are away from home he needs to play in front of the back four - not as some kind of defensive lynch pin but as the player who will get the ball off our back four and try and pass it to the likes of Ireland and N'Zogbia rather than the likes of Collins hoof it 70yards. Against some of the weaker teams he needs to play more an orthodox central midfielder albeit as part of a central three. He'll have some poor games for sure but we need to play him there, he's confident and wants to play, McLeish needs to be brave enough to do it IF he wants to play good football. 

[paulcomben]

I'm no McLeish fan, but he interviews well.

he obviously did well in the interview with Randy

*wink*

What is your best quality? Defensive coaching

What is your worst quality? Inability to coach midfield pass and move football

How will you cope with Villa fans reacting badly to getting the relegated Blues' boss? If they fell for proud history bright future, those suckers will fall for anything.

Would you like a large budget? Desperately

How would you cope with a budget tighter than a gnat's chuff? Please gimme the job, I'm desperate, please don't let me stay with the Noses, I cannot face going up then going down again.

[richard moore]

Really struggling to understand why anyone at all would question our penalty, whether that be Warnock, Wilkins or any other pratt who likes to think they can make up rules. Gabby's shirt was pulled (very clearly) which stopped any chance he had of getting on the end of the cross - fact! This is a foul - fact! It was in the penalty area so a penalty is the only correct decision - fact! Whether people want to call it "soft" or not is up to them - but it was an intentional foul in the penalty area.

Why the debate?

I agree, clear as daylight to me, even more so on the replay. What you need to understand however is that it isn't a penalty in the view of 'Einstein' Neville as most other players get away with that all the time. So that definitely doesn't make it a penalty in his pea sized brain. He should know after all, playing for Man Utd of course...

[Jockey Randall]

To be honest, with the number of people who are overwhelmingly negative about the club as things stand, Mark's positivity is a welcome diversion and creates some kind of balance.

And we have no shortage of members who have been calling for McLeish to go or describing him as a bluenose wanker or some such.

I honestly don't understand why people are so angry and negative about the villa? So we haven't got the money to compete? So what? Neither of the most of the other sides in the league. We just have to get on with it and stop slagging off people left right and centre. Supporting a team should be about enjoying yourself and getting behind the team as a group of fans, not getting stressed out every game and throwing your toys out the pram when things don't go your way.

[hawkeye]

Good poit Richard, It was like this QPR team were world beaters, but if you have a look at that team there is nothing to be frightened of at all. SWP showed what we have all known for some time, lots of ability but no end product. Joey Barton is decent but not exceptional. Ferdinand is very ordinary.

[wombat]

The 1st half was exactly what I expected. The 2nd half, however I expected to be right up against it for the 1st 20 mins but it was the complete opposite of that. We played much better, be didn't really create a great deal.

What I saw today was no lack of effort from anyone but in the 1st half completely no idea what they were trying to do. 2nd half the midfielders supported gabby and it got better. Draw probably the right result but 0-0 probably a more realistic score.

Gary Neville..... could Sky employ anyone with less charisma?? Makes Trevor Francis almost palatable and exciting.