Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[glasses]

First half, although they had a majority of the game, Shay didn't have much to do, and at the end of the half, we were on top and didn't want the whistle to go for half time. We started brilliantly in the second half, went for them, and deserved the goal, and although the penalty was slightly harsh, our dominance and play merited a goal. Bannan was fantastic in the second half, my MOTM.

I feel Mcleish threw the points away though, by making us too negative. We were playing some good attacking football, then Bannan goes off, and we invite the pressure on to us. I dont know if anyone else spotted it or has mentioned, but when we won the corner in injury time, and the idea was to keep the ball in the corner flag. The camera cut to Mcliesh before it was taken, and he was signalling 'seven' to the players, I think meaning that he wanted seven players in our half. That is just asking for trouble.

Oh and Joey Barton is a filthy cheating racist ******

[Villanation]

The penalty decision, IMO, you challenge a player that way and you risk all, he did tug the shirt, the notion behind doing that was for the player to gain a pecuniary advantage, it was in the box, that's a foul, the fact that Gabby then went down only emphasised the incident, to say he dived in order to sway a judgement call is b*ll*x

[pauliewalnuts]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

Aren't you tired of this act yet Mark?

Absolutely, can't you and others just save it for the traditional pantomine season?

Try and get behind the team, they were throwing bodies in today like real warriors, fighting for the cause. Our fans there were superb too. We're in a difficult place at the moment, it might help if we all go behind the lads. Confidence in football is massive.

What has happened to the Mark who used to weep salty tears for weeks watching MON's Groundhog football?

What have you done with him?

[taylorsworkrate]

Ireland and Bannan were very good second half, and that sort of possession based interplay is something I'd like to see a lot more of.

This.

[Risso]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

Aren't you tired of this act yet Mark?

Absolutely, can't you and others just save it for the traditional pantomine season?

Try and get behind the team, they were throwing bodies in today like real warriors, fighting for the cause. Our fans there were superb too. We're in a difficult place at the moment, it might help if we all go behind the lads. Confidence in football is massive.

You were as critical of the team as anybody under the later days of O'Neill, and yet these days you seems to have appointed yourself as the new Chris Smith.  Your choice of course, but calling other fan "drama queens" every other post is deeply pathetic, even more so given your record.

[nick harper]

When we play the ball to feet, we look a half decent side. I thought the passing was good in the second half - we had some opportunities to break in the last 20 mins and should have killed the game.

We need to be patient while McLeish finds the right blend but he needs to find places for Ireland and Bannon.

I was cautiously encouraged by the second half.

[ez]

The second half has given me some hope for the season that we can play to feet and take the game to the opposition.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Ireland and Bannan were very good second half, and that sort of possession based interplay is something I'd like to see a lot more of.

Absolutely. I mentioned how they clicked together even in the 15 minutes against Brags; two natural footballers, both technically gifted. What we need is to allow them the freedom to express themselves, whilst they continue to chase things down, playing their part in our defence. As I said earlier, there's plenty for AM to think about after today, lots of it positive, it's all about finding the right balance, especially in midfield.

[Risso]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

Aren't you tired of this act yet Mark?

Absolutely, can't you and others just save it for the traditional pantomine season?

Try and get behind the team, they were throwing bodies in today like real warriors, fighting for the cause. Our fans there were superb too. We're in a difficult place at the moment, it might help if we all go behind the lads. Confidence in football is massive.

What has happened to the Mark who used to weep salty tears for weeks watching MON's Groundhog football?

What have you done with him?

Good question.  I haven't seen a more obvious and flawed attempt at reinventing one's image since Joey Barton started quoting famous philosophers.

[richard moore]

Pleased with the point now I have calmed down, based on what I saw first half and thinking we would get thumped 3-0 beforehand

Very sorry though for Gary Neville that QPR didn't win

He would make as crap a referee as he is a commentator...

[Villanation]

First half, although they had a majority of the game, Shay didn't have much to do, and at the end of the half, we were on top and didn't want the whistle to go for half time. We started brilliantly in the second half, went for them, and deserved the goal, and although the penalty was slightly harsh, our dominance and play merited a goal. Bannan was fantastic in the second half, my MOTM.

I feel Mcleish threw the points away though, by making us too negative. We were playing some good attacking football, then Bannan goes off, and we invite the pressure on to us. I dont know if anyone else spotted it or has mentioned, but when we won the corner in injury time, and the idea was to keep the ball in the corner flag. The camera cut to Mcliesh before it was taken, and he was signalling 'seven' to the players, I think meaning that he wanted seven players in our half. That is just asking for trouble.

Oh and Joey Barton is a filthy cheating racist c***

Yep I thought Bannan's contribution was massive, he did show a little naivety in certain area's but you would expect that and he will learn, took the penalty like a good un, having had Ferdinand give him some verbal which he should have got booked for IMO.

Came out in the 2nd half and showed they actually listened to the manager, that in itself speaks volumes for both team and manager.

However we did resort to a negative style and that lets the opposition come back at you.

[taylorsworkrate]

I thought our penalty was soft, although I agree that their defender brought in on himself as thats the risk you take when you make contact.

I also think we were lucky not to give away at least one penalty for handball.  I thought both were but could see why the first one wasn't given as Hutton kept his arms by his sides and made no movement with them towards the ball.  I thought the second one was stonewall as Hutton had his arms outstretched, blocking the cross into the box.

We've used up a bit of luck today.

[Tuscans]

1st half the whole midfield didnt want the ball, Collins and Dunne kept us in that.

2nd half the midfield actually passed and went forward. Bannan, Petrov and Irelands distribution was good. Ireland moves the ball quickly to feet and moves into space but our players are so thick when it comes to football intelligence. Delph wants too much time and N'Zog keeps trying to dribble....into a player instead of just keeping it simple. I think Jenas will come in for Delph.

Gutted with only a point, still reminds me of another typical MON performance but I think we will get a couple of wins in before we start to play the better teams.

I get the impression something is wrong with N'Zogbia, he gets the ball and freezes, never seen that in him before.

Cant fault his work rate, always behind the ball when we were defending but I think he's just trying too hard for that goal or majestic run. Signs are there's a top player in him...I think against Wigan he will bring his "A" game"

What signs?  I think he's awful, and he's no more likely to be any good against Wigan than he was against Newcastle.

The same signs when Downing joined and he was bunk in his first season and then become our player of the year. N'Zog never had to defend and put in a shift at Wigan like he did today. Yea I said he needs to stop trying to beat a player every single time and give it simple but I think its a case of just trying too hard at a new club. Give him time as you know he wasn't rubbish at Newcastle or Wigan.

Whilst i agree about N'Zogbia needing time (and Downing is a perfect example of that), do you really believe the bit in bold?

He frequently had to put in a major shift for Wigan, and usually did so, too.

It was probably the most defining change in the player who used to play for Newcastle.

Oh don't get me wrong, of course he had to do his bit but not in the way I think Mcleish wants his team set up defensively compared to how Martinez does, hence why they concede so many goals as they don't defend the ball as a unit. Ok, his final ball or or jink past a player is lacking so far but at least he knows that and does get back behind the ball working to get it back. I'm just saying I have seen far too many players join a new club and take time to bed in, I believe he will become a good player for us.

[JJ-AV]

I'm no McLeish fan, but he interviews well.

[Rigadon]

I thought our penalty was soft, although I agree that their defender brought in on himself as thats the risk you take when you make contact.

I also think we were lucky not to give away at least one penalty for handball.  I thought both were but could see why the first one wasn't given as Hutton kept his arms by his sides and made no movement with them towards the ball.  I thought the second one was stonewall as Hutton had his arms outstretched, blocking the cross into the box.

We've used up a bit of luck today.

I think the 4th minute of stoppage time equalizing won goal actually evens things up a bit.