Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Risso]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

Aren't you tired of this act yet Mark?

[Villanation]

1st half the whole midfield didnt want the ball, Collins and Dunne kept us in that.

2nd half the midfield actually passed and went forward. Bannan, Petrov and Irelands distribution was good. Ireland moves the ball quickly to feet and moves into space but our players are so thick when it comes to football intelligence. Delph wants too much time and N'Zog keeps trying to dribble....into a player instead of just keeping it simple. I think Jenas will come in for Delph.

Gutted with only a point, still reminds me of another typical MON performance but I think we will get a couple of wins in before we start to play the better teams.

I get the impression something is wrong with N'Zogbia, he gets the ball and freezes, never seen that in him before.

Cant fault his work rate, always behind the ball when we were defending but I think he's just trying too hard for that goal or majestic run. Signs are there's a top player in him...I think against Wigan he will bring his "A" game"

What signs?  I think he's awful, and he's no more likely to be any good against Wigan than he was against Newcastle.

He has been awful, so what you saying, he was born awful, what I'm saying is he came into the game more and more and definitely figured in the 2nd half, now you have to put his money where is mouth is a give him the chance, better v Wigan than anybody else IMO, if he's showing signs you can't ignore that.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Ireland was the best he has been - and still shit poor.

What on earth are you talking about?

Do you think that never giving the ball away, finding space and being involved in all our good moves is shit poor?

Aside from the defense, Bannan and Ireland were far and away our best players today.

It is absolutely ridiculous the stick that Ireland gets from some.  You'd think we've got so many good players that we can afford to rubbish him.

Talking more sense again, TWR.

[Tuscans]

1st half the whole midfield didnt want the ball, Collins and Dunne kept us in that.

2nd half the midfield actually passed and went forward. Bannan, Petrov and Irelands distribution was good. Ireland moves the ball quickly to feet and moves into space but our players are so thick when it comes to football intelligence. Delph wants too much time and N'Zog keeps trying to dribble....into a player instead of just keeping it simple. I think Jenas will come in for Delph.

Gutted with only a point, still reminds me of another typical MON performance but I think we will get a couple of wins in before we start to play the better teams.

I get the impression something is wrong with N'Zogbia, he gets the ball and freezes, never seen that in him before.

Cant fault his work rate, always behind the ball when we were defending but I think he's just trying too hard for that goal or majestic run. Signs are there's a top player in him...I think against Wigan he will bring his "A" game"

What signs?  I think he's awful, and he's no more likely to be any good against Wigan than he was against Newcastle.

The same signs when Downing joined and he was bunk in his first season and then become our player of the year. N'Zog never had to defend and put in a shift at Wigan like he did today. Yea I said he needs to stop trying to beat a player every single time and give it simple but I think its a case of just trying too hard at a new club. Give him time as you know he wasn't rubbish at Newcastle or Wigan.

[Compass]

MOTM - The Ref.

Yet again another draw. Why are we so scared to try and get another goal? We're dropping points as we did last season. How can anyone trust the back 4. All of them are total shit when it comes to being composed.

Hutton and N'Zogbia look to be garbage buys as well. I mean, really really garbage.

Back to the dark days of DOL with no positive hope.

You can see the next match. Villa 1 - 1 Wigan and outplayed.

[VillaZogmariner]

Given - Not much to do to be honest

Hutton - Come back Cuellar, all is forgiven.
Dunne - Back to his best, unlucky with the own goal.
Collins - Solid if not spectacular.
Warnock - I've yet to see him play better than Shorey did for us.

Delph - Think he is trying too hard. Could do with a break when Jenas is fit.
Petrov - Solid
Ireland - Second half I thought he was starting to show us what he can do.

Bannan - Very good in the second half on the ball, and plenty of energy too.
N'Zogbia - Meh
Agbonlahor - Plenty of running but not given much in the way of service.

[Goldie.7]

How are injuries coming on? I'd like to see Clark, Jenas and Herd come into today's team.

Me too!

[Somniloquism]

Well Warnock has officially ranted about the ref now.

If those decisions went against us we would be royally pissed off.  I think the ref only got the sending off right.

His first appearance wasn't too bad as he showed some class which is not normally associated with him. It was the fact he then decided to come back in front of the cameras in the tunnel ( first time ever any manager has done that) and then had a full on blast about everything.

Traore had Gabbys shirt in his hands for a few seconds and although it might not have had an effect, to say he just blew on him and Gabby went down is very disrespectful as he tried to stretch for the ball with his leg as he couldn't have tried to heading it due to the pull back. It probably should have been a pen for the first but Hutton didn't move his arm at the ball, it looked more like he was pulling it back.

[Risso]

Ireland and Bannan were very good second half, and that sort of possession based interplay is something I'd like to see a lot more of.

[hawkeye]

How many players are we waiting to come good?
I saw glimpses of first touch football in the second half that were outstanding, so there is hope

[pauliewalnuts]

I honestly don't get how anyone can really moan too much about any of our midfielders based on the first half, when they spent 45 minutes watching the ball sail over their heads. 

What are they meant to do in those circumstances?

[VillaZogmariner]

Well Warnock has officially ranted about the ref now.

If those decisions went against us we would be royally pissed off.  I think the ref only got the sending off right.

Warnock was right about that, except for the sending off, but that's not the point, it's the way he can't resist getting his whingeing fucking face in the camera like he's the first person to be on the end of duff refereeing.

He's entertaining enough, but he's an absolute whining weasel of a man, who I would quite gladly club senseless with a cricket bat. And he still probably wouldn't shut the fuck up.

Colin Wanker

76 points.

*wink*

Applause!

[Tuscans]

Ireland and Bannan were very good second half, and that sort of possession based interplay is something I'd like to see a lot more of.

True that!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

Aren't you tired of this act yet Mark?

Absolutely, can't you and others just save it for the traditional pantomine season?

Try and get behind the team, they were throwing bodies in today like real warriors, fighting for the cause. Our fans there were superb too. We're in a difficult place at the moment, it might help if we all go behind the lads. Confidence in football is massive.

[pauliewalnuts]

1st half the whole midfield didnt want the ball, Collins and Dunne kept us in that.

2nd half the midfield actually passed and went forward. Bannan, Petrov and Irelands distribution was good. Ireland moves the ball quickly to feet and moves into space but our players are so thick when it comes to football intelligence. Delph wants too much time and N'Zog keeps trying to dribble....into a player instead of just keeping it simple. I think Jenas will come in for Delph.

Gutted with only a point, still reminds me of another typical MON performance but I think we will get a couple of wins in before we start to play the better teams.

I get the impression something is wrong with N'Zogbia, he gets the ball and freezes, never seen that in him before.

Cant fault his work rate, always behind the ball when we were defending but I think he's just trying too hard for that goal or majestic run. Signs are there's a top player in him...I think against Wigan he will bring his "A" game"

What signs?  I think he's awful, and he's no more likely to be any good against Wigan than he was against Newcastle.

The same signs when Downing joined and he was bunk in his first season and then become our player of the year. N'Zog never had to defend and put in a shift at Wigan like he did today. Yea I said he needs to stop trying to beat a player every single time and give it simple but I think its a case of just trying too hard at a new club. Give him time as you know he wasn't rubbish at Newcastle or Wigan.

Whilst i agree about N'Zogbia needing time (and Downing is a perfect example of that), do you really believe the bit in bold?

He frequently had to put in a major shift for Wigan, and usually did so, too.

It was probably the most defining change in the player who used to play for Newcastle.