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Author Topic: Boxing Thread 2012.  (Read 129777 times)

Online paul_e

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #285 on: July 14, 2012, 10:30:18 PM »
the first knockdown was fantastic, Haye at his very very best.  Left had him out, then the right was as clean as can be.  2nd knockdown was inevitable, Chisora could barely stand up.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #286 on: July 14, 2012, 10:32:11 PM »
radio saying they are now bestest mates

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #287 on: July 14, 2012, 10:32:59 PM »
Haye looked very strong for the first time.Most of done loads of gym work.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #288 on: July 14, 2012, 10:35:30 PM »
Haye looked like he was the right weight, looked too heavy in his last couple of fights, remember, he's not a natural heavyweight, it's too easy for boxers to step up and put on upper body weight but it slows you down.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #289 on: July 14, 2012, 10:50:04 PM »
Ok next up Khan to win on points, just.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #290 on: July 14, 2012, 10:53:53 PM »
Ok next up Khan to win on points, just.


what sort of time do they think that will start ?


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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #291 on: July 14, 2012, 11:08:27 PM »
Ok next up Khan to win on points, just.


what sort of time do they think that will start ?


3-4 o'clock the bastards.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #292 on: July 14, 2012, 11:13:53 PM »
Ok next up Khan to win on points, just.


what sort of time do they think that will start ?


3-4 o'clock the bastards.


thanks, dont think i'l bother then

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #293 on: July 14, 2012, 11:19:55 PM »
4am apparently. As long as Khan uses his speed and fights on the outside he'll win easily. He does seem to get a red mist though that makes him want to slug it out and Swift's left hook is pretty heavy.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #294 on: July 14, 2012, 11:33:34 PM »
4am apparently. As long as Khan uses his speed and fights on the outside he'll win easily. He does seem to get a red mist though that makes him want to slug it out and Swift's left hook is pretty heavy.
That's the problem with Khan,he never fights his own fight.It will get messy tonight.

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« Reply #295 on: July 15, 2012, 12:09:26 AM »
4am apparently. As long as Khan uses his speed and fights on the outside he'll win easily. He does seem to get a red mist though that makes him want to slug it out and Swift's left hook is pretty heavy.
That's the problem with Khan,he never fights his own fight.It will get messy tonight.

He had been better his last few fights before peterson, but he didn't seem 'right' in that one.  He has a great coach and working with Manny has helped him massively in learning to use his feet and use his hand speed (he's one of the quickest boxers I've ever seen when he gets the combos right).  If he can keep Garcia at range and step in, pick him off and step out he'll destroy him.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #296 on: July 15, 2012, 12:10:32 AM »
Well, the pointless fight was won by the one who was always going to win. How the fuck has Chisora managed to have a career where he's made loads of money? Says a lot about the British heavyweight scene since Lewis retired.

Right, proper boxing - Khan in seven.

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« Reply #297 on: July 15, 2012, 12:19:00 AM »
Well, the pointless fight was won by the one who was always going to win. How the fuck has Chisora managed to have a career where he's made loads of money? Says a lot about the British heavyweight scene since Lewis retired.

Right, proper boxing - Khan in seven.
Make that the world heavyweight division,it is a bit shit.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #298 on: July 15, 2012, 12:20:32 AM »
Well, the pointless fight was won by the one who was always going to win. How the fuck has Chisora managed to have a career where he's made loads of money? Says a lot about the British heavyweight scene since Lewis retired.

Right, proper boxing - Khan in seven.
Make that the world heavyweight division,it is a bit shit.

True.

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Re: Boxing Thread 2012.
« Reply #299 on: July 15, 2012, 12:42:37 AM »
Well, the pointless fight was won by the one who was always going to win. How the fuck has Chisora managed to have a career where he's made loads of money? Says a lot about the British heavyweight scene since Lewis retired.

Right, proper boxing - Khan in seven.
Make that the world heavyweight division,it is a bit shit.

True.

absolutely, that's why Haye blowing it against klitschko was so disappointing, if he'd won we might have seen a move away from the very defensive midset in the division currently.  They've done what the williams sisters have done in tennis, found a niche that they can excel in (they have great chins, are very strong and have great stamina, so they go into fights knowing they can do just enough each round to get it on points by landing a couple of big hits), the problem being that they've done such a good job that there's a great danger of it becoming the model of how to win at that level.

As for how Chisora has made a career as a boxer, read the above, he lasts 12 rounds easily, has a chin made of granite and is strong enough that he can overpower all but the best.  Against Klitschko he did well because he fights like they do.  Against Haye tonight he was shown up by a boxer whose technique is light years ahead.  Chisora landed a few big hits tonight (one of which was well after the bell) but it was like he was swinging hammers, Haye boxed clean and crisp and just picked Chisora's defense apart.  What Haye did tonight is what he should've done against Wladimir, but instead he tried to bulk up and match him for power, and sacrificed his speed to do it, which ruined him.

 


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