Aston Villa v Newcastle United Post-Match Thread

[Irish villain]

What annoyed me was how cheaply we gave away the ball. That is just heartbreaking. When you have the ball, value it and hang onto it.  It's an easy game when you have the ball.

[wombat]

Didier Six, David Ginola, Mathieu Berson, Gerard Houllier, Charles N'Zogbia...

We need to just steer clear of anything French!

Centre of midfield is a massive problem, we don't have the players to play just 2 in there. We are going to have to play with 3 and just one wide player.

[pauliewalnuts]

If anything sums up the false dawn, what-might-have-been essence of being an Aston Villa supporter, it is Didier Six's debut.

[Pete3206]

I take it that the honeymoon period is over.

[kippaxvilla2]

I predict that our first new asshole will be ripped next weeks judging by QPR's (in particular Bartons) performance just.

[kippaxvilla2]

Oh and we're either 5th or last on MOTD again, what a shock.

[Greg N'Ash]

Citeh is the first game i'm really not looking forward to. play those tactics and invite them onto us and it could be embarassing

[ROBBO]

Bannons natural position is attacking midfield the problem is he can't tackle and would make an already lightweight midfield featherweight. Notice the way Newcastle always attacked down the side protected by Hutton and Bannon it tells you something. The football was turgid and the only class on display was fron Newcastle and Given, for the people that wanted Houllier gone, i would rather play his brand of football than the rubbish being served up by AM. Mind you it's not all his fault, when you sell your two best players and don't spend to replace them thisis what you get i guess. I think unless we can improve we will be battling relegation this year.

[Summers]

Nowhere specific to say this, but in the table we're now quite clearly 7th. Above Everton due to alphabetical order. Yet MOTD just decided to show them as above us. Seems odd. The fact they have a game in hand can't be the reason, surely?

[Dave]

Nowhere specific to say this, but in the table we're now quite clearly 7th. Above Everton due to alphabetical order. Yet MOTD just decided to show them as above us. Seems odd. The fact they have a game in hand can't be the reason, surely?

I'd say that makes sense.

Fewer games taken to get to the same place.

[Greg N'Ash]

Just out of interest what is the record for premiership draws in a season? Could be worth a bet.

[Tony]

What annoyed me was how cheaply we gave away the ball. That is just heartbreaking. When you have the ball, value it and hang onto it.  It's an easy game when you have the ball.

But this isn't new, we even have a Spaniard in the shape of form of Carlos Cuellar in our squad who can't frigging pass, I can't understand why we have so many players who can't frigging pass, it's embarrassing and should be for the manager and coaching staff.

[Greg N'Ash]

What annoyed me was how cheaply we gave away the ball. That is just heartbreaking. When you have the ball, value it and hang onto it.  It's an easy game when you have the ball.

But this isn't new, we even have a Spaniard in the shape of form of Carlos Cuellar in our squad who can't frigging pass, I can't understand why we have so many players who can't frigging pass, it's embarrassing and should be for the manager and coaching staff.

isn't that why we've got AM? GH tried to get 'em to pass and failed so Lerner's brought in someone who can work with the players MON lumbered us with. Somewhow i don't think we're going to see a passing game anytime soon.

[Toronto Villa]

Doom and gloom in here.

Given is absolutely fantastic. What a keeper. Agile as a cat. Much, much better than Spurs Brad.
The defence looked solid. Dunne is looking back to his best, and I rate Collins incredibly highly. I think he's brilliant. Warnock looks like he cares this season, and is performing well. I don't understand the Hutton negativity, he's still settling in and getting up to full fitness, but he defended well and got forward well today.
Midfield is an issue. Delph looks lost. We need Jenas fit and in the side in his place, we'd look much better in midfield then. Petrov is trying his best this season and he's doing well again. Bannan is, quite simply, sublime. He needs to be starting every game from now on, we'll play better with him in the side. N'Zogbia isn't fit, and it's obvious. He's looked good in flashes, but he needs to wake up a little bit.
No negatives to say about Gabby, he's playing his heart out this season. Is Bent injured? Looks off the pace and should be doing better. We need him fit and flying.

The subs today.. Albrighton is a good option from the bench. Needs more time on days like today when N'Zog isn't doing the business. Ireland looked good when he came on, another one I don't understand the negative comments about. He looked interested and tried to have a go.

We're not playing brilliantly by any means, but we're doing okay. The midfield with Jenas in will be stronger, and if N'Zogbia and Bent can get themselves better involved then we'll be doing a lot better going forward.

Well said.

I like that assessment. Players like Bent and N'Zogbia have proved themselves to be good players over the course of their career. They'll come good because they haven't suddenly become bad. The season is a long one and we are still figuring things out. Obviously we want to win games against teams of a similar position or standard to us, but it will come. Today was turgid and a struggle at times, but we'll get there. Nothing more to say about Given. He's magic, and Gabby looks like he really wants it again.

[The Left Side]

Positives - Given with a great save, Warnock looked up for it, Gabby getting the goals and the kids played well and Ireland had a few good touches.
Negatives - NZogbia looked pretty average and you would have thought he'd be up for it against his old club, he could be injured and Bent had some chances but all in all a draw was far!