Hutton & Jenas set to sign.

[VillaZogmariner]

I have no issue with the signing of Hutton, he is in effect a younger model of Luke Young.

Jenas though I just don't understand what he can offer us. His passing is worse than Makoun's, goal threat is worse than Ireland's, ability to hold the ball is is worse than Petrov's and has less energy than Delph.

It doesn't quite work like that though, otherwise the following would be an equally logical statement.

"Jenas is going to be amazing for us, his passing is better than NRC, he's more mentally stable than Ireland, got way more energy than Petrov and has bags of experience in the premiership compared to Delph."

It does in the context of me not knowing what it is he can offer us.

Play him instead of Delph, we lose some of that energy and passing. Instead of Petrov we lose the holding of the ball that he gives us. etc

But maybe play him alongside Petrov and Delph, and we add drive, energy, box-to-boxiness, extra height and creativity?

I think we'll line up like this;

                     Given

Hutton   Collins   Dunne   Warnock

         Jenas   Petrov   Delph

N'Zogbia                        Agbonlahor

                     Bent

Other than the height issue, I'd say Bannan would be a better choice for the creativity and drive.

[Dante Lavelli]

But maybe play him alongside Petrov and Delph, and we add drive, energy, box-to-boxiness, extra height and creativity?

I think we'll line up like this;

                     Given

Hutton   Collins   Dunne   Warnock

         Jenas   Petrov   Delph

N'Zogbia                        Agbonlahor

                     Bent

That's a strong possibility.

Looks good too and can easily change into a 442 with gabby up top and Delph LM and Nzog RM.

[Chris Smith]

Other than the height issue, I'd say Bannan would be a better choice for the creativity and drive.

Long term I agree but don't think he's ready to do it every game and I don't think it fair to expect it.

[LeeB]

Other than the height issue, I'd say Bannan would be a better choice for the creativity and drive.

Long term I agree but don't think he's ready to do it every game and I don't think it fair to expect it.

I think alongside Jenas and Petrov in the middle three could be the answer.

[VillaZogmariner]

Other than the height issue, I'd say Bannan would be a better choice for the creativity and drive.

Long term I agree but don't think he's ready to do it every game and I don't think it fair to expect it.

I agree to an extent, but as a percentage I'd rather see Bannan start  75% of the games compared to Jenas.

[Le Lapin]

They are good players, glad we got Hutton, he'll prove a lot of the doubters wrong.
It's a pity we didn't get Jenas on a proper transfer, himself and Delph in midfield would work well, drop Sweatrov to the bench and bring in Albrighton on the wing, get Heskey on the bench. Play Gabby up with Bent or Ireland behind him and we are starting to look like a team that will cause a few problems. If Jenas has a stormer season, old melted wheely bin face is going to take him back and try flog us another of his midfield duds, or we'll be charged a fortune.

......................Given...............................

Hutton....Collins.......Dunne.......Warnock

Albrighton.....Jenas......Delph.....N'Zogbia

................Bent.......Gabby/Ireland(playing behind)...

[PeterWithe]

McLeish managed to scrape Carr, Bowyer and Ferguson out of the barrell at the rags, all players at the end of the shelf life, and make them halfway decent premier league players again when everyone to a man would have said they we're busted flushes.

The thing I liked about the McLeish signing was that I hoped he would get the best out of our experienced but demotivated older players, which to be fair, so far so good. Allied to this, I imagined that given a bigger budget than he'd get from that lot we'd get a few imaginative signings to garner a bit of interest. These pair really are really a bit meat & two veg, not at all bad, just dull.

[Mazrim]

I'm not a massive fan of Jenas but I could imagine him playing instead of Petrov for instance.
He's far more mobile and has better stamina.

So I could see the benefit of playing Delph and Jenas with one of Ireland or Bannan ahead of them.
I dont think he'll start games that way and can see Petrov, Delph and Jenas lining up in midfield more often than not, which wouldn't be terrible at all. But I'd like to get one of our more attack minded midfielders involved from the start. At the moment, Bannan.

We've made some decent signings this summer but not much more than that.
I initially disagreed with my brother when he suggested Randy might be gearing the club for sale but now I'm seriously considering the possibilty and for the first time in 5 years the thought doesn't bother me much. As long as he chose a worthy successor. Still, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

I actually thought we were about to sign a world class full back but it was just Hutton dressed as Lahm

[Caiphus]

Jenas isn't completely crap in the air, and Hutton adds some extra height too, hopefully that means that Heskey doesn't get played.  In a flat midfield 3, Delph would have more licence to be box-to-box rather then just sit like he has been and he has shown an ability to play some cracking passes so far in my opinion.  Jenas is also a pretty reasonable creator and is a better midfield goal threat than Petrov.  I think we have definitely increased our tactical options to supply service to Bent without damaging our encouraging solidness so far.

[Caiphus]

I actually thought we were about to sign a world class full back but it was just Hutton dressed as Lahm

Don't turn into Brice Jovial please Mazrim, he's dropped that bad pun in every second thread so far... (sigh)

 

[Irish villain]

In response to McLeish comments, I think we have a very good manager who is working under considerabloe constraints and I hope fans back him this season.

[PaulTheVillan]

In response to McLeish comments, I think we have a very good manager who is working under considerabloe constraints and I hope fans back him this season.

Agreed.

His first job was obviously to make us tighter at the back & harder to beat. Early signs are he's improving this already.

As v Wolves we had plenty of possession coming forward & created chances.

Once the front 3 work out each others style & movement I'm confident Bent will score plenty of goals this season.

He's getting the best out of Petrov as he's less exposed due to us playing with less width.

[Risso]

I think we'll line up like this;

                     Given

Hutton   Collins   Dunne   Warnock

         Jenas   Petrov   Delph

N'Zogbia                        Agbonlahor

                     Bent

Which doesn't actually look that bad, although I'd really just like to see:

Given

Hutton Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Bannan Petrov N'Zogbia
Bent Agbonlahor

[pedro25]

I'm happy with Jenas, at 28 he has 21 England caps, Parker at 31 has 6.

[Mazrim]

I think we'll line up like this;

                     Given

Hutton   Collins   Dunne   Warnock

         Jenas   Petrov   Delph

N'Zogbia                        Agbonlahor

                     Bent

Which doesn't actually look that bad, although I'd really just like to see:

Given

Hutton Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Bannan Petrov N'Zogbia
Bent Agbonlahor

I think that team would be overrun through the middle too often and I wouldn't drop Delph for anybody at the moment.