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Offline Irish villain

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #150 on: September 01, 2011, 10:01:28 AM »
remy, I wouldn't play Bannan, Delph and Ireland. We need a midfieler who can win the ball back and tackle without trying to get sent off. Petrov should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #151 on: September 01, 2011, 10:04:13 AM »
Our new back four now consists of:

Scottish Right Back - Hutton - £4m

Welsh Centre Half - Collins - £5m

Irish Centre Half - Dunne - £6m

English Left Back - Warnock - £6m

All Internationals for their respective countries at one time or another. I am pleased at this back four shape with Shay Given in behind them.

The team for Everton may look like this:

Given

Hutton Dunne Collins Warnock

Delph Ireland Bannan

Nzogbia Bent Gabby

Bench:
Guzan
Beye
Cuellar
Petrov
Albrighton
Heskey

 :D


You dont fancy playing Jenas then ?   Is he injured ?

Offline NeilH

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #152 on: September 01, 2011, 10:06:18 AM »
For all the gnashing of teeth and chucking of toys out of prams, the bottom line is that we are not going down and are no better or worse than the rest of the dross teams around us. Our two new signings are cheaper and equal ability replacements for players who were on ridiculous wages, negotiated by our previously manager.

My only real complaint is the way we have conducted ourselves this summer and the decisions that have been made, but maybe it is because the relationship and goodwill between us the fans and the board was so good for so long, that the reality hit home harder.

Offline noodles_

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #153 on: September 01, 2011, 10:06:51 AM »
Cant really understand the hate for Jenas tbh. He's a good player who lost his way a bit. We desperately needed a box to box midfielder and if he regains some form he'll chip in with some goals too. Something that none of our midfielders do currently.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #154 on: September 01, 2011, 10:09:50 AM »
Cant really understand the hate for Jenas tbh. He's a good player who lost his way a bit. We desperately needed a box to box midfielder and if he regains some form he'll chip in with some goals too. Something that none of our midfielders do currently.

Our midfield just looks average. Two years ago, Petrov was the weak link of our midfield now he's the most important one we have. To think we had Young, Milner, Barry, Downing at the club at one time. Delph and Bannan need to mature quickly and start fulfilling their potential.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #155 on: September 01, 2011, 10:11:40 AM »
I have no issue with the signing of Hutton, he is in effect a younger model of Luke Young.

Jenas though I just don't understand what he can offer us. His passing is worse than Makoun's, goal threat is worse than Ireland's, ability to hold the ball is is worse than Petrov's and has less energy than Delph.

It doesn't quite work like that though, otherwise the following would be an equally logical statement.

"Jenas is going to be amazing for us, his passing is better than NRC, he's more mentally stable than Ireland, got way more energy than Petrov and has bags of experience in the premiership compared to Delph."

Offline Meanwood Villa

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #156 on: September 01, 2011, 10:12:05 AM »
I'm quite pleased. I think Hutton is an improvement on Young and I think Jenas is an improvement on Makoun so in that respect it's job done. The whys and wherefores and rights and wrongs of the scaling back of the ambition our board once showed have been debated endlessly on this site but for where we are I think that's not a bad day's work

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #157 on: September 01, 2011, 10:13:25 AM »
remy, I wouldn't play Bannan, Delph and Ireland. We need a midfieler who can win the ball back and tackle without trying to get sent off. Petrov should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

One goal conceded in four games suggest that isn't our most pressing concern.

Offline noodles_

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #158 on: September 01, 2011, 10:13:39 AM »
Cant really understand the hate for Jenas tbh. He's a good player who lost his way a bit. We desperately needed a box to box midfielder and if he regains some form he'll chip in with some goals too. Something that none of our midfielders do currently.

Our midfield just looks average. Two years ago, Petrov was the weak link of our midfield now he's the most important one we have. To think we had Young, Milner, Barry, Downing at the club at one time. Delph and Bannan need to mature quickly and start fulfilling their potential.

And Jenas probably would have got in the side then too. He's played in top 6 teams his whole career.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #159 on: September 01, 2011, 10:15:18 AM »
remy, I wouldn't play Bannan, Delph and Ireland. We need a midfieler who can win the ball back and tackle without trying to get sent off. Petrov should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

One goal conceded in four games suggest that isn't our most pressing concern.

We need to create more, I think everybody would agree with that. That's why Bannan or Ireland needs to be in the team in place of Heskey. Playing both together, alongside Delph, would be a mistake. That was my point.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #160 on: September 01, 2011, 10:16:48 AM »
I have no issue with the signing of Hutton, he is in effect a younger model of Luke Young.

Jenas though I just don't understand what he can offer us. His passing is worse than Makoun's, goal threat is worse than Ireland's, ability to hold the ball is is worse than Petrov's and has less energy than Delph.

It doesn't quite work like that though, otherwise the following would be an equally logical statement.

"Jenas is going to be amazing for us, his passing is better than NRC, he's more mentally stable than Ireland, got way more energy than Petrov and has bags of experience in the premiership compared to Delph."

It does in the context of me not knowing what it is he can offer us.

Play him instead of Delph, we lose some of that energy and passing. Instead of Petrov we lose the holding of the ball that he gives us. etc

Offline QBVILLA

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2011, 10:20:25 AM »
remy, I wouldn't play Bannan, Delph and Ireland. We need a midfieler who can win the ball back and tackle without trying to get sent off. Petrov should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

One goal conceded in four games suggest that isn't our most pressing concern.

We need to create more, I think everybody would agree with that. That's why Bannan or Ireland needs to be in the team in place of Heskey. Playing both together, alongside Delph, would be a mistake. That was my point.

Whilst we didn't exactly create an abundance of chances against Wolves I thought we had more than enough chances to have won the game.Petrov and N'Zogbia in particular were guilty of not being able to hit the target from 18 yards.Also I think we're still to see N'Zogbia anywhere near full fitness yet.Apart from a couple of decent dribbles on Saturday he's made a quiet start for the club.I'm sure he'll come good and when he does we'll have a lot more creativity.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #162 on: September 01, 2011, 10:20:52 AM »
I have no issue with the signing of Hutton, he is in effect a younger model of Luke Young.

Jenas though I just don't understand what he can offer us. His passing is worse than Makoun's, goal threat is worse than Ireland's, ability to hold the ball is is worse than Petrov's and has less energy than Delph.

It doesn't quite work like that though, otherwise the following would be an equally logical statement.

"Jenas is going to be amazing for us, his passing is better than NRC, he's more mentally stable than Ireland, got way more energy than Petrov and has bags of experience in the premiership compared to Delph."

It does in the context of me not knowing what it is he can offer us.

Play him instead of Delph, we lose some of that energy and passing. Instead of Petrov we lose the holding of the ball that he gives us. etc

But maybe play him alongside Petrov and Delph, and we add drive, energy, box-to-boxiness, extra height and creativity?

I think we'll line up like this;

                     Given

Hutton   Collins   Dunne   Warnock

         Jenas   Petrov   Delph

N'Zogbia                        Agbonlahor

                     Bent

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #163 on: September 01, 2011, 10:24:30 AM »
Did Nzogbia get called up for France?
I kind of hope not as this international break would be ideal for him to have a mini pre-season.

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #164 on: September 01, 2011, 10:27:21 AM »
But maybe play him alongside Petrov and Delph, and we add drive, energy, box-to-boxiness, extra height and creativity?

I think we'll line up like this;

                     Given

Hutton   Collins   Dunne   Warnock

         Jenas   Petrov   Delph

N'Zogbia                        Agbonlahor

                     Bent


That's a strong possibility.

 


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