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Offline Merv

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #135 on: September 01, 2011, 09:35:39 AM »
I think they're both decent signings, given our circumstances, to be fair. Not exactly exciting or imaginative, but I see Hutton as a step up from Luke Young, who seemed susceptible to injuries over the last two years. Hutton will give us more going forward, he's pretty solid and quick. He actually had a good season with Spurs last season and, at 26, means we'll still have a sellable asset on our hands in a few years' time.

I confess to always rating Jenas, though he's lost his way in recent years. He's been marginalised at Spurs in the last couple of seasons and hasn't lived up to the potential he showed as a really young player but given a run of games I think he'll surprise a lot of people. He's got a lot about him.

What I will say is that, compared to last season, I think our midfield options overall are weaker.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #136 on: September 01, 2011, 09:35:54 AM »

IF gabby does this

IF Bannan does that

IF Bent is given one goal scoring opportunity every other game

IF Delph does okay

IF Petrov doesn't breath out of his arse after an hour


Slightly profound statement here but isn't it the "IFs" that make football interesting.  If we knew what we were getting then it would just be boring, you'd know the result before the game kick off.  It's why I have never really envied Man United fans, most of their games are a walk in the park and it's only when they face Barca that they get to appreciate the subtleties and anxieties that most other fans enjoy (and detest).   

Offline LeeB

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #137 on: September 01, 2011, 09:36:40 AM »
There was an item on news this morning about the blight of fly tipping. THis is exactly what Levi has done and Faulkner has opened wide to take the rubbish.

I think that's a bit harsh.  Hutton's not a bad player, and Jenas has something about him if you look hard enough, but overall the squad is just getting weaker and weaker, and the signings yesterday were little more than shoddy patching up jobs.

As it stands, you may be right.

But things change very quickly. If you wind back 12 months, Downing was a good player who'd had an admittedly distrupted but ultimately underwhelming year with us, Henderson was just a promising but unstested rookie (still is), and Carrol had done well in the championship but was unproven at the top level.

Now? £75m and everyone's wetting themselves over them.

McLeish managed to scrape Carr, Bowyer and Ferguson out of the barrell at the rags, all players at the end of the shelf life, and make them halfway decent premier league players again when everyone to a man would have said they we're busted flushes.

It will be interesting to see what he can do with the two he's signed here who are of a much higher calibre. And for me the signs are good so far in that Gabby and Dunne in particular look much more like themselves.

 

Offline LeeB

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #138 on: September 01, 2011, 09:40:13 AM »

IF gabby does this

IF Bannan does that

IF Bent is given one goal scoring opportunity every other game

IF Delph does okay

IF Petrov doesn't breath out of his arse after an hour


Slightly profound statement here but isn't it the "IFs" that make football interesting.  If we knew what we were getting then it would just be boring, you'd know the result before the game kick off.  It's why I have never really envied Man United fans, most of their games are a walk in the park and it's only when they face Barca that they get to appreciate the subtleties and anxieties that most other fans enjoy (and detest).   

I'd say that applied more to Chelsea. At least old whiskey face rips it up every few years and changes things around. I'd imagine it would be quite enjoyable being a scummy red at the moment, watching a very promising but unproven group of young players tearing new arseholes in all and sundry.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #139 on: September 01, 2011, 09:43:17 AM »
Previously my biggest gripe with Jenas was that MON seemed prepared to spend around 9m on him.  Whilst I am sure the loan is not free, at least this way we get him cheaply for one season (helping Delph develop and an alternative to Petrov) and we can see whether he is the player we want before we cough up that sort of money.

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #140 on: September 01, 2011, 09:45:30 AM »
Hutton:-
I think this may turn out to be a very shrewd signing.  He was a £9m fullback not too long ago, under our present manager, but didn't get a proper look in at Spurs.  No shame in that when you look at Kyle Walker - and wasn't he supposedly behind Hutton in the RB pecking order when we took him on loan.  With a manager who knows how to organise a defence he'll improve that side of his game, plus give us more going forward than Young did.  Happy with the signing.

So maybe if we turn Hutton around we can have Walker back again? Just kidding. I'm not too distraught. If I'm honest I didn't expect anyone else in until we sold Young. Then Hutton made sense. But Jenas is a useful player, I get the impression he is a very consistent contributor which you can't say about any of our MF at the moment. If Bannan is about a year off being ready to start every week which I think he is, then it could work out perfectly.

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #141 on: September 01, 2011, 09:46:34 AM »
There was an item on news this morning about the blight of fly tipping. THis is exactly what Levi has done and Faulkner has opened wide to take the rubbish.

I think that's a bit harsh.  Hutton's not a bad player, and Jenas has something about him if you look hard enough, but overall the squad is just getting weaker and weaker, and the signings yesterday were little more than shoddy patching up jobs.

As it stands, you may be right.

But things change very quickly. If you wind back 12 months, Downing was a good player who'd had an admittedly distrupted but ultimately underwhelming year with us, Henderson was just a promising but unstested rookie (still is), and Carrol had done well in the championship but was unproven at the top level.

Now? £75m and everyone's wetting themselves over them.

McLeish managed to scrape Carr, Bowyer and Ferguson out of the barrell at the rags, all players at the end of the shelf life, and make them halfway decent premier league players again when everyone to a man would have said they we're busted flushes.

It will be interesting to see what he can do with the two he's signed here who are of a much higher calibre. And for me the signs are good so far in that Gabby and Dunne in particular look much more like themselves.

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Offline KRS

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #142 on: September 01, 2011, 09:50:00 AM »
With regards to Hutton...just thank ourselves lucky he decided to come to Villa rather than Fulham and we didnt have to resort to Danny fuckin Simpson!



Offline JJ-AV

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #143 on: September 01, 2011, 09:50:08 AM »
I'm OK with Hutton.

For Jenas I have three questions:

1) Why didn't we keep Nige?
2) Why didn't we sign Bradley?
3) Why didn't we not loan out Jean Deux?
4) Why can't we scout and get someone from abroad who could possible be something other than average?

Anthony Annan went on loan to Vitesse, why didn't we go for him?!

Offline KRS

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #144 on: September 01, 2011, 09:51:24 AM »
1. he was offered a contract and declined
2. he was shite
3. he is on loan
4. even foreigners cost money

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #145 on: September 01, 2011, 09:54:26 AM »
I have no issue with the signing of Hutton, he is in effect a younger model of Luke Young.

Jenas though I just don't understand what he can offer us. His passing is worse than Makoun's, goal threat is worse than Ireland's, ability to hold the ball is is worse than Petrov's and has less energy than Delph.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #146 on: September 01, 2011, 09:54:34 AM »
I think Jenas will do well.  He has a point to prove.

An MON type signing.... oh sh1t!

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #147 on: September 01, 2011, 09:54:51 AM »
Our new back four now consists of:

Scottish Right Back - Hutton - £4m

Welsh Centre Half - Collins - £5m

Irish Centre Half - Dunne - £6m

English Left Back - Warnock - £6m

All Internationals for their respective countries at one time or another. I am pleased at this back four shape with Shay Given in behind them.

The team for Everton may look like this:

Given

Hutton Dunne Collins Warnock

Delph Ireland Bannan

Nzogbia Bent Gabby

Bench:
Guzan
Beye
Cuellar
Petrov
Albrighton
Heskey

 :D

Offline Brend'Watkins

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #148 on: September 01, 2011, 09:56:06 AM »
These are 'wait and see' signings. We are having a 'wait and see' season.

Which is OK until you have a couple of heavy defeats.


As I stated earlier, I see it as a 'hoped to be proved wrong' season.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Hutton & Jenas set to sign.
« Reply #149 on: September 01, 2011, 10:01:23 AM »
There was an item on news this morning about the blight of fly tipping. THis is exactly what Levi has done and Faulkner has opened wide to take the rubbish.

I think that's a bit harsh.  Hutton's not a bad player, and Jenas has something about him if you look hard enough, but overall the squad is just getting weaker and weaker, and the signings yesterday were little more than shoddy patching up jobs.

As it stands, you may be right.

But things change very quickly. If you wind back 12 months, Downing was a good player who'd had an admittedly distrupted but ultimately underwhelming year with us, Henderson was just a promising but unstested rookie (still is), and Carrol had done well in the championship but was unproven at the top level.

Now? £75m and everyone's wetting themselves over them.

McLeish managed to scrape Carr, Bowyer and Ferguson out of the barrell at the rags, all players at the end of the shelf life, and make them halfway decent premier league players again when everyone to a man would have said they we're busted flushes.

It will be interesting to see what he can do with the two he's signed here who are of a much higher calibre. And for me the signs are good so far in that Gabby and Dunne in particular look much more like themselves.

 

To be fair to Petrov and Im not his biggest fan , he has looked better

 


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