woeful attendance

[dazzyg]

ooooooohhhhh looks like a bit of realism has hit a few nerve's on here........ I don't want to us lose but lets be honest 6 points from 12 isn't great when you look at the teams we have played so far. I wonder if the rfans who have replied to my points of view have actually applauded AM during the games? Will they applaud him? He isn't the right man for the job and YES because of where he has come from. tWO RELEGATIONS IN THREE YEARS thats a great manager isn't it?

[ajmant]

You a Bluenose dazzg?

[saunders_heroes]

ooooooohhhhh looks like a bit of realism has hit a few nerve's on here........ I don't want to us lose but lets be honest 6 points from 12 isn't great when you look at the teams we have played so far. I wonder if the rfans who have replied to my points of view have actually applauded AM during the games? Will they applaud him? He isn't the right man for the job and YES because of where he has come from. tWO RELEGATIONS IN THREE YEARS thats a great manager isn't it?

It's so easy to spot a Bluenose.

[Dante Lavelli]

ooooooohhhhh looks like a bit of realism has hit a few nerve's on here........ I don't want to us lose but lets be honest 6 points from 12 isn't great when you look at the teams we have played so far. I wonder if the rfans who have replied to my points of view have actually applauded AM during the games? Will they applaud him? He isn't the right man for the job and YES because of where he has come from. tWO RELEGATIONS IN THREE YEARS thats a great manager isn't it?

It's not "realism", it's just your opinion.  Do all of your mates agree with you, or is your attitude seen as a tad extreme by them too.  Be honest.

[PeterWithe]

when Mcliesh was muted for the villa job, there was absolute mayhem on here, the likes of that probably has never been seen before.
 not many wanted him and warned that there would be a massive problem with crowd attendances. even seasoned posters refused to think it would happen right up untill the bitter end, when he was finally confirmed

when he was got the job, everyone had to revise their position as he was now 'ours' and we still supported the club, so we then had the 'i didnt want him but he's our manager so i will support him' posts, which is much the view i have taken.

but lets not forget what we were saying before AM got the job,
 and its much the same as what dazzyg is still saying, but maybe not with a lot of tact or sensitivity
 if Randy was concerned about crowd attendances and atmosphere then he appointed the wrong man, and if we all look back at our posts pre AM thats what many if not all of us were saying,

its a bit hypocritical to now say AM not in any way to blame for the low attendances, when we all were warning of that before the appointment.

Spot on in my opinion.

[Chris Smith]

It's the same old story the fans are split on McLeish you either accept it or fans LIKE ME who cant stand the bloke as our manager. He will never been accepted by fans LIKE ME (season ticket holder since I was five now I'm 40). The atmosphere is terrible there is no incentive to go albeit after paying nearly £600 for my season ticket.

You're right, stay at home and do the rest of us a favour. You're in a very smal minority, most people are fair minded enough to give the bloke a chance.

[cheltenhamlion]

And he didn't take them down twice in three seasons.

[nick harper]

It's the same old story the fans are split on McLeish you either accept it or fans LIKE ME who cant stand the bloke as our manager. He will never been accepted by fans LIKE ME (season ticket holder since I was five now I'm 40). The atmosphere is terrible there is no incentive to go albeit after paying nearly £600 for my season ticket.

You're right, stay at home and do the rest of us a favour. You're in a very smal minority, most people are fair minded enough to give the bloke a chance.

I agree it's a minority but he will have no honeymoon period or patience from the fans when we inevitably hit a poor run.

Like most on here, I want him to do well and am prepared to give him a chance but I think the minority will grow quickly and sour the atmosphere at VP when results dip..

[pauliewalnuts]

when Mcliesh was muted for the villa job, there was absolute mayhem on here, the likes of that probably has never been seen before.
 not many wanted him and warned that there would be a massive problem with crowd attendances. even seasoned posters refused to think it would happen right up untill the bitter end, when he was finally confirmed

when he was got the job, everyone had to revise their position as he was now 'ours' and we still supported the club, so we then had the 'i didnt want him but he's our manager so i will support him' posts, which is much the view i have taken.

but lets not forget what we were saying before AM got the job,
 and its much the same as what dazzyg is still saying, but maybe not with a lot of tact or sensitivity
 if Randy was concerned about crowd attendances and atmosphere then he appointed the wrong man, and if we all look back at our posts pre AM thats what many if not all of us were saying,

its a bit hypocritical to now say AM not in any way to blame for the low attendances, when we all were warning of that before the appointment.

Spot on in my opinion.

I'd agree with the basics of that, although the last line was a little starkly put.

My first thought when we appointed him was "Crikey, try selling season tickets on the back of AM as manager, selling players and no money to spend", and what has happened thus far is hardly the biggest of surprises.

[dazzyg]

Most people do disagree with my opinions as a life long villa fan. I just dont see how fellow villa fans can accept him maybe I have more of a hatred towards the scum down the road than most Villa fans do.
At the end of the day I have put my money where my mouth is and renewed again as I always do surely this entitles me to an opinion? I certainly wont be upset when he leaves which he will do.

[dazzyg]

"And he didn't take them down twice in three seasons." come on cheltenhamlion they were relegegated end of 2008 season and last season. Dont get making excuses for him !!!!

[NeilH]

I just dont see how fellow villa fans can accept him maybe I have more of a hatred towards the scum down the road than most Villa fans do.

You're going to chuck away all your years of supporting Villa because he happened to manage Blues? If you're hatred for them is truly that deep that you cannot even accept an ex-employee of the club, god knows how you function in the city on a daily basis when you see Blues fans on the street.

Here is a exhibit A of why a Villa fan can be as small minded as a Bluenose.

Judge the guy on his achievements for gods sake, not his choice of employer.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Most people do disagree with my opinions as a life long villa fan. I just dont see how fellow villa fans can accept him maybe I have more of a hatred towards the scum down the road than most Villa fans do.
At the end of the day I have put my money where my mouth is and renewed again as I always do surely this entitles me to an opinion? I certainly wont be upset when he leaves which he will do.

I'd imagine that with your obsession with the knuckledraggers you'd be aware to the fact that they hate McLeish. Surely you'd want him to do well if only to piss them off?

My advise would be to judge him on what he does at Villa Park, as let's face it, Mourinho, Wenger and even Ferguson couldn't do anything at a shit hole club like the Rags, so why expect McLeish to have done better?

[dave.woodhall]

Why is it always the idiots who claim to know what the rest of us think?

[Ger Regan]

I certainly wont be upset when he leaves which he will do.

Can you tell me tonight's lottery numbers while you're at it? Who would have thought, the manager might leave his job at some stage in the future?