Aston Villa sign Charles N'Zogbia (Reply#1151)

[Concrete John]

Thinking about it, our asking price for Barry was £18m when Liverpool came calling, which we dropped by a third to £12m when he had one year left.  If Whelan accepted £9m, then following the same pattern he should now be valued at £6m.  I know he has no obligation to follow our thinking on Barry, and the player did have a good season in 10/11, but even then asking for more when he's down to 12 months is a flaming cheek!

[Mazrim]

Wigan can charge what they like - he's their player and if they want to up it they can. No different from us willing to flog Barry for pennies during DOL's time. Should we have stuck to that amount when Liverpool came calling? nah....

Difference was Barry was NOT in the last year of his contract nor did we previosuly accept a bid for him the previous season just like Wigan have done in the Nzogbia case.  Last season, blues had a bid of £9m accepted and we have bd the same with the player into his final yr of the contract.  No way is he worth £12m with one yr to go.  If he had another season then yes, Wigan have a case and can up the price.  DW is just trying to be too greedy now and wants to start some sort of bidding war.
 

Of course they're trying to be greedy. Doesn't help that we've recently pocketed the Downing money and they want a wedge of that. As i said at the time, there was no need to force through the Downing deal till we had a replacement. Liverpool could have waited a week or so, but such are the ways of our fuckwit board.

I have to agree. Selling Downing before getting a replacement was just fucking stupid.

[tarzansbrother]

Wigan can charge what they like - he's their player and if they want to up it they can. No different from us willing to flog Barry for pennies during DOL's time. Should we have stuck to that amount when Liverpool came calling? nah....

Difference was Barry was NOT in the last year of his contract nor did we previosuly accept a bid for him the previous season just like Wigan have done in the Nzogbia case.  Last season, blues had a bid of £9m accepted and we have bd the same with the player into his final yr of the contract.  No way is he worth £12m with one yr to go.  If he had another season then yes, Wigan have a case and can up the price.  DW is just trying to be too greedy now and wants to start some sort of bidding war.
 

Of course they're trying to be greedy. Doesn't help that we've recently pocketed the Downing money and they want a wedge of that. As i said at the time, there was no need to force through the Downing deal till we had a replacement. Liverpool could have waited a week or so, but such are the ways of our fuckwit board.

Totally disagree the scales had been tipped by the dippers agreeing to our ridiculous £20m valuation, after starting the bidding at £12m. I still cannot believe they paid that sum and we quit rightly bit their hand off.

[Greg N'Ash]

Wigan can charge what they like - he's their player and if they want to up it they can. No different from us willing to flog Barry for pennies during DOL's time. Should we have stuck to that amount when Liverpool came calling? nah....

Difference was Barry was NOT in the last year of his contract nor did we previosuly accept a bid for him the previous season just like Wigan have done in the Nzogbia case.  Last season, blues had a bid of £9m accepted and we have bd the same with the player into his final yr of the contract.  No way is he worth £12m with one yr to go.  If he had another season then yes, Wigan have a case and can up the price.  DW is just trying to be too greedy now and wants to start some sort of bidding war.
 

Of course they're trying to be greedy. Doesn't help that we've recently pocketed the Downing money and they want a wedge of that. As i said at the time, there was no need to force through the Downing deal till we had a replacement. Liverpool could have waited a week or so, but such are the ways of our fuckwit board.

Totally disagree the scales had been tipped by the dippers agreeing to our ridiculous £20m valuation, after starting the bidding at £12m. I still cannot believe they paid that sum and we quit rightly bit their hand off.

i'm not saying we shouldn't have bit there arm off but there's nothing against the rules that says you can't agree a fee privately and announce the transfer later.

[tarzansbrother]

Wigan can charge what they like - he's their player and if they want to up it they can. No different from us willing to flog Barry for pennies during DOL's time. Should we have stuck to that amount when Liverpool came calling? nah....

Difference was Barry was NOT in the last year of his contract nor did we previosuly accept a bid for him the previous season just like Wigan have done in the Nzogbia case.  Last season, blues had a bid of £9m accepted and we have bd the same with the player into his final yr of the contract.  No way is he worth £12m with one yr to go.  If he had another season then yes, Wigan have a case and can up the price.  DW is just trying to be too greedy now and wants to start some sort of bidding war.
 

Of course they're trying to be greedy. Doesn't help that we've recently pocketed the Downing money and they want a wedge of that. As i said at the time, there was no need to force through the Downing deal till we had a replacement. Liverpool could have waited a week or so, but such are the ways of our fuckwit board.

Totally disagree the scales had been tipped by the dippers agreeing to our ridiculous £20m valuation, after starting the bidding at £12m. I still cannot believe they paid that sum and we quit rightly bit their hand off.

i'm not saying we shouldn't have bit there arm off but there's nothing against the rules that says you can't agree a fee privately and announce the transfer later.

I think we have done that with Nzogbia's agent. And Wigan are just trying to get top dollar now. I'm surprised Redknapp hasn't come out with his normal 'he's going to Villa I aint bidding' comments.

[QBVILLA]

As with any asset NZogbia is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.No point comparing other transfer fees.Dave Whelan, whatever you think about him is doing his best to screw every last penny for his club.He doesn't,nor should he care about Villa.I can't see why people are getting upset about it.

[FrankyH]

I think Villa's  first bid for a player they want is always too near the end price,we never seem too bid low and then haggle up to mutual price. A bit like the scene in Life of Brian.

[Concrete John]

As with any asset NZogbia is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.No point comparing other transfer fees.Dave Whelan, whatever you think about him is doing his best to screw every last penny for his club.He doesn't,nor should he care about Villa.I can't see why people are getting upset about it.

That's true, and in many respects you can't blame him, but what happens if we say 'OK, go fuck yourself' and buy someone else?  Is there another taker or will he be stuck with an unhappy player who may not perform and then go for feck all next summer?

[QBVILLA]

As with any asset NZogbia is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.No point comparing other transfer fees.Dave Whelan, whatever you think about him is doing his best to screw every last penny for his club.He doesn't,nor should he care about Villa.I can't see why people are getting upset about it.

That's true, and in many respects you can't blame him, but what happens if we say 'OK, go fuck yourself' and buy someone else?  Is there another taker or will he be stuck with an unhappy player who may not perform and then go for feck all next summer?

Well that'll be Whelan's concern, not ours.I can't be doing with players who threaten strike action to get a  move.Wigan gave him a chance in the Premier league and he's been paid handsomely for it.It's understandable that he fancies a move to a bigger club, though I suspect it'd be the bigger wages which really inspires him.However, he could well be doing the same next summer to us if man Utd declare an interest.He's a worm, unfortunately one of many in the game but as fans we're entitled to be fickle with our moral outrage.He's a good player so I say sign him and cheer him throughout the season.Next summer we can come on here calling him all the wankers under the sun before we tap up the next emerging talent from a smaller club

[LeeB]

I'd leave the £9m on the table, give it a week, and when old turtle head comes back and agrees as no fucker else wants him, I'd tell him bollocks, here's £7m.

[VillaAlways]

Apparently DW has come out and said it's bollox about CNZ going on strike and DW has reiterated he can go for £10,000,000 and not a penny less.Get it paid Villa

[PaulWinch again]

Just pay the £10 million Villa.

[Dave P]

Apparently DW has come out and said it's bollox about CNZ going on strike and DW has reiterated he can go for £10,000,000 and not a penny less.Get it paid Villa

There must be something going on behind the scenes.  I cannot believe we would be willing to let a major summer target go by the wayside.  I refuse the lay any blame anywhere as we dont know what is going on but if NZog isn't in our team at Craven Cottage then questions need to be asked.

[Clark W Griswold]

Just pay the goddam friggin money for the love of god. We don't want another Robbie Keane scenario. I thought we'd got better than douglarse in charge now. £10m is hardly a rip off in todays transfer market for a player like N'Zogbia at the age he's at. It's actually good value.

[UsualSuspect]

Get the money paid and get him integrated into the squad.

Whelan has been saying for a week now that 10 million quid and he's yours so just pay it.

Unless we deliberately have bid low and then can blame Wigan  when we get lumbered with the other targets....