Aston Villa sign Charles N'Zogbia (Reply#1151)

[*shellac*]

By threatening strike action NZogbia has shown himself to be yet another worm.All going well he'll sign, do well,get one of the Sky4 interested and we'll flog him next summer for £20m after he's threatened strike action against Villa we've all labelled him a judas bastard.The merry go round that is football

That or Winston Bogarde.  I prefer that.

[Mazrim]

By threatening strike action NZogbia has shown himself to be yet another worm.

Unless it's true that Wigan told him and us that he could leave if Villa pay £9m, and we offered that and they moved the goal posts. In which case he has a genuine grievance.

Footballers are mostly piss taking weasels now, but Dave Whelan definitely is.

[Chris Smith]

By threatening strike action NZogbia has shown himself to be yet another worm.

Unless it's true that Wigan told him and us that he could leave if Villa pay £9m, and we offered that and they moved the goal posts. In which case he has a genuine grievance.

Footballers are mostly piss taking weasels now, but Dave Whelan definitely is.

They agreed to sell him to the Noses last year for £9m, now with less time left on his contract they've upped the price just because they think we have the cash. It's Whelan who is being the knob here and if they've gone back on thir word you can understand him being pissed off.

[pauliewalnuts]

Dave Whelan is just doing his job. Last week we were saying we should screw every penny we could out of Liverpool. That's what Wigan are doing to us.

 I see Darren Bent was talking about how much he'd like N'Zogbia to arrive. Reminded me of when Gerrard was talking about how much he hoped Liverpool signed Barry from us.

[VillaAlways]

Dave Whelan is just doing his job. Last week we were saying we should screw every penny we could out of Liverpool. That's what Wigan are doing to us.

 

The difference being DW had previously stated he had to sell CNZ and has been practically hawking him.We neither wanted or needed to sell shitface hence 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' were forced to pay through the nose

[UsualSuspect]

How is what Wigan are doing any different to what we did with Downing?

hasn't Whelan always said 10 million and he leaves?

[VillaAlways]

How is what Wigan are doing any different to what we did with Downing?

hasn't Whelan always said 10 million and he leaves?

See my post above

[CJ]

Just out of interest - has N'Zogbia submitted a transfer request to try and force the issue and so forego a slice of the fee?

[pauliewalnuts]

Dave Whelan is just doing his job. Last week we were saying we should screw every penny we could out of Liverpool. That's what Wigan are doing to us.

 

The difference being DW had previously stated he had to sell CNZ and has been practically hawking him.We neither wanted or needed to sell shitface hence 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' were forced to pay through the nose

But what Whelan said previously about CNZ and what he's doing now are absolutely none of our business. He's told us he wants 10m, and won't sell until he gets it.

We told Liverpool we wanted whatever-it-was for Gareth Barry, stuck to it, they didn't pay it, we kept the player. We told Liverpool what we wanted for Downing, they offered less, we stuck to our guns, and got an acceptable fee.

What's the difference?

We can not moan about other clubs protecting their positions and maximising their assets when other clubs come calling, when we've just been ranting about how we needed to do the same just two weeks ago.

I'd also dispute the fact that we didn't need to sell Downing - we clearly did, because he submitted a transfer request, made it clear he wanted out, and his contract was running down. That's largely the same situation as CNZ (although dont know about the TR yet).

The ultimate proof that we needed to sell Downing is in the fact that we did.

[UsualSuspect]

How is what Wigan are doing any different to what we did with Downing?

hasn't Whelan always said 10 million and he leaves?

See my post above

We didn't want to have to sell Downing but he wanted to go so we had to and made sure we got the best deal.

Wigan don't really want to get rid of Nzogbia but know thay have to because of his contract so they want to get the best deal.

How is it different?

[Chris Smith]

Dave Whelan is just doing his job. Last week we were saying we should screw every penny we could out of Liverpool. That's what Wigan are doing to us.

 

The difference being DW had previously stated he had to sell CNZ and has been practically hawking him.We neither wanted or needed to sell shitface hence 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' were forced to pay through the nose

But what Whelan said previously about CNZ and what he's doing now are absolutely none of our business. He's told us he wants 10m, and won't sell until he gets it.

We told Liverpool we wanted whatever-it-was for Gareth Barry, stuck to it, they didn't pay it, we kept the player. We told Liverpool what we wanted for Downing, they offered less, we stuck to our guns, and got an acceptable fee.

What's the difference?

We can not moan about other clubs protecting their positions and maximising their assets when other clubs come calling, when we've just been ranting about how we needed to do the same just two weeks ago.

I'd also dispute the fact that we didn't need to sell Downing - we clearly did, because he submitted a transfer request, made it clear he wanted out, and his contract was running down. That's largely the same situation as CNZ (although dont know about the TR yet).

The ultimate proof that we needed to sell Downing is in the fact that we did.

Yes, he's trying to get as much money as possible for his club but the inference seems to be that he quoted one price then changed his mind. That's his prerogative but it doesn't mean we just have to roll over and accept it.

It will get sorted by some sort of compromise as all parties want the deal to go through but I still reckon if we'd bid £10m first off Whelan  would have asked for £11m, he's just that sort of bloke.

[VillaAlways]

How is what Wigan are doing any different to what we did with Downing?

hasn't Whelan always said 10 million and he leaves?

See my post above

We didn't want to have to sell Downing but he wanted to go so we had to and made sure we got the best deal.

Wigan don't really want to get rid of Nzogbia but know thay have to because of his contract so they want to get the best deal.

How is it different?

Because we didn't openly say we needed to sell the player, set the price and then move the goalposts

[pauliewalnuts]

Dave Whelan is just doing his job. Last week we were saying we should screw every penny we could out of Liverpool. That's what Wigan are doing to us.

 

The difference being DW had previously stated he had to sell CNZ and has been practically hawking him.We neither wanted or needed to sell shitface hence 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' were forced to pay through the nose

But what Whelan said previously about CNZ and what he's doing now are absolutely none of our business. He's told us he wants 10m, and won't sell until he gets it.

We told Liverpool we wanted whatever-it-was for Gareth Barry, stuck to it, they didn't pay it, we kept the player. We told Liverpool what we wanted for Downing, they offered less, we stuck to our guns, and got an acceptable fee.

What's the difference?

We can not moan about other clubs protecting their positions and maximising their assets when other clubs come calling, when we've just been ranting about how we needed to do the same just two weeks ago.

I'd also dispute the fact that we didn't need to sell Downing - we clearly did, because he submitted a transfer request, made it clear he wanted out, and his contract was running down. That's largely the same situation as CNZ (although dont know about the TR yet).

The ultimate proof that we needed to sell Downing is in the fact that we did.

Yes, he's trying to get as much money as possible for his club but the inference seems to be that he quoted one price then changed his mind. That's his prerogative but it doesn't mean we just have to roll over and accept it.

It will get sorted by some sort of compromise as all parties want the deal to go through but I still reckon if we'd bid £10m first off Whelan  would have asked for £11m, he's just that sort of bloke.

He is exactly that sort of bloke.

My point was that it's up to him. As you said, we don't have to accept it, we can move on.

The whole thing is a game of poker, I'm just amazed anyone is surprised he's not making it easy for us.

[Percy McCarthy]

The thing is, football is all about hypocrisy.

We got all self righteous about Downing handing in a transfer request because he wanted to leave for Liverpool, yet now, we'll mostly pretend N'Zogbia is only going on strike because Wigan have betrayed him somewhat.

True about the hypocrisy. I've seen quite a few posts by us about Wigan that sound almosts word-for-word like what  Liverpool fans were saying re: us and Downing. Not attractive.

EDIT: Just seen the rest of the thread, emphasising my point.

[themossman]

Plus aren't most of us saying we want Randy to be a bit more cynical in his dealings with other clubs i.e. a twat like Whelan.