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Online john2710

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2011, 09:29:02 PM »
With just 12 months left on his contract & his age £2-3m does not seem too bad a fee, providing the money is going towards a player who will be a first choice defender. I would expect someone like Dann or Shawcross to come in and push Collins down to 4th choice.

Offline GJH

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2011, 09:31:52 PM »
Good player, shame he was mostly played out of position. Give Cieran Clark a proper chance now, wouldnt bother signing Dann for 8-12m!

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2011, 09:50:34 PM »
Bearing in mind he can slot in at right back if need be, letting him go for £2m (if that's what it is) is pointless. We should keep him and let him fight for his place, he's a bloody good defender.


yep, doesn't make sense. Are we really scrambling under the sofa for loose change that 2m will make all the difference to AM's transfer budget?

Offline madirishvillain

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2011, 10:09:26 PM »
Bearing in mind he can slot in at right back if need be, letting him go for £2m (if that's what it is) is pointless. We should keep him and let him fight for his place, he's a bloody good defender.


yep, doesn't make sense. Are we really scrambling under the sofa for loose change that 2m will make all the difference to AM's transfer budget?

the "Budget"  ;D


Eck got relegated last year with them that hate us with a passion

we told him, "you can have the job here at Villa, but you have feck all to spend and we are selling anything that moves"

Eck says "no problem, they are doing that anyway, i still get an amazing wage with a premiership club"

that is the jist of this summer so far?

Offline Ian.

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2011, 10:16:22 PM »
Bearing in mind he can slot in at right back if need be, letting him go for £2m (if that's what it is) is pointless. We should keep him and let him fight for his place, he's a bloody good defender.


yep, doesn't make sense. Are we really scrambling under the sofa for loose change that 2m will make all the difference to AM's transfer budget?

the "Budget"  ;D


Eck got relegated last year with them that hate us with a passion

we told him, "you can have the job here at Villa, but you have feck all to spend and we are selling anything that moves"

Eck says "no problem, they are doing that anyway, i still get an amazing wage with a premiership club"

that is the jist of this summer so far?

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Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2011, 10:18:59 PM »
What about AM evaluating him? Was there a negative evaluation?

More bullshit on top of the other bullshit.

Offline GJH

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2011, 10:21:05 PM »
Jist of the summer,getting rid of the big salaries first of all:

Carew 35-50k
Reo Coker 40k+
Friedel 50k
Young 65k +
Downing 50k +
Cuellar 35-50k

That would go towards cutting the 80m spent on players and wages over the last few seasons. Wouldn't be suprised to see Heskey and Beye on their way out aswell.

Perhaps Randy has had a good go at the 5 year plan, it hasnt paid off and now he's looking at just staying in the league and good cup runs? Who knows? The guy never speaks to us on what is going on.


Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2011, 10:25:12 PM »
Seems we're going from one extreme to the other. Before we had loads of players who never got selected, now we've got a 1st team (well not yet) and erm, the youth.

Offline madirishvillain

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2011, 10:25:39 PM »
Bearing in mind he can slot in at right back if need be, letting him go for £2m (if that's what it is) is pointless. We should keep him and let him fight for his place, he's a bloody good defender.


yep, doesn't make sense. Are we really scrambling under the sofa for loose change that 2m will make all the difference to AM's transfer budget?

the "Budget"  ;D


Eck got relegated last year with them that hate us with a passion

we told him, "you can have the job here at Villa, but you have feck all to spend and we are selling anything that moves"

Eck says "no problem, they are doing that anyway, i still get an amazing wage with a premiership club"

that is the jist of this summer so far?

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jesus wept a mod said that today

and lickspittle follows in

just trying to make it easier for you, i speak to the english every day on the phone

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #99 on: July 16, 2011, 10:34:45 PM »
It's a strange one, this.

On the evidence of my own eyes (admittedly not always reliable)  Carlos is a solid, dependable centre half.

But three Villa managers in a row now don't seem to share that opinion. And as Chris says, why is it only Rangers coming in for him?  If he's had a raw deal here, fair enough. Surely other Prem clubs or a few decent sides in his homeland would take advantage of the situation.

I don't doubt he likes Rangers, and the chance to win things (in an admittedly weak league) must be attractive. But it's a soft option for a pro who can potentially play at a far higher level.  Or maybe he can't, maybe his distribution is so woeful no half decent side will look at him.

Offline madirishvillain

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2011, 10:37:21 PM »
It's a strange one, this.

On the evidence of my own eyes (admittedly not always reliable)  Carlos is a solid, dependable centre half.

But three Villa managers in a row now don't seem to share that opinion. And as Chris says, why is it only Rangers coming in for him?  If he's had a raw deal here, fair enough. Surely other Prem clubs or a few decent sides in his homeland would take advantage of the situation.

I don't doubt he likes Rangers, and the chance to win things (in an admittedly weak league) must be attractive. But it's a soft option for a pro who can potentially play at a far higher level.  Or maybe he can't, maybe his distribution is so woeful no half decent side will look at him.


Kevin - rangers can agree a fee with us - no bother - but they are skint

we could agree a fee with man City if we wanted for tevez

Offline GJH

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2011, 10:40:28 PM »
Need another 10 players dont we?

GK-replace Friedel
defender -replace cuellar
right back -replace walker
left back - need cover for Warnock
midfielder - replace Coker
left winger - replace Downing
right winger - replace Young
striker - replace Carew
+ 2 extra players we needed last season.

Or we sign a GK and a left winger and see how it goes with the squad we've got.

Have a first 11 and bring the youth in as and when?

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2011, 10:42:33 PM »
They're a bit less skint these days.

I think £2 million is too low as well, but he is one of our higher earners (believed to be £40k + week), in the last year of his contract and maybe that level of wage for a guy who isn't going to feature that much can be better spent elsewhere.

McLeish did say he wanted to check Carlos out in pre season training before making any decisions. Well seemingly he has, and this is the result.

Offline madirishvillain

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2011, 10:45:12 PM »
They're a bit less skint these days.

I think £2 million is too low as well, but he is one of our higher earners (believed to be £40k + week), in the last year of his contract and maybe that level of wage for a guy who isn't going to feature that much can be better spent elsewhere.

McLeish did say he wanted to check Carlos out in pre season training before making any decisions. Well seemingly he has, and this is the result.

are they?

they have a big tax bill to pay yet

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2011, 10:45:13 PM »
They're a bit less skint these days.

I think £2 million is too low as well, but he is one of our higher earners (believed to be £40k + week), in the last year of his contract and maybe that level of wage for a guy who isn't going to feature that much can be better spent elsewhere.

McLeish did say he wanted to check Carlos out in pre season training before making any decisions. Well seemingly he has, and this is the result.

Seemingly.

Is all that we see or seem just a dream within a dream?

 


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