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Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #345 on: July 14, 2011, 11:25:39 AM »
I agree with the club's statement about replacements being available. And that, in my opinion, is the most important action after our recent departures.

It is going to be an interesting few weeks at VP.

4 weeks until the start of the season. They need to get interesting really quickly.

Interestingly the chairman of Wolves said yesterday they had been negotiating the deal for Johnson ever since Blues were relagated yet I hadn't heard a single link until he was having his medical.So who knows who we're in for and how long it will take

Online Stu

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #346 on: July 14, 2011, 11:27:13 AM »
Liverpool fans saying downing is better than ash young ..fook off ..

Well to be fair, they would say that. He's not, obviously. He can't cross as well, isn't as fast, doesn't track back, doesn't tackle, isn't as good with the ball at his feet and doesn't have AY's vision for a pass.

They need to tell themselves that because Man U got the better player. And for less money. Liverpool have to pay big money to get what they want now, the lustre has gone.

Offline mazrimsbruv

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #347 on: July 14, 2011, 11:29:52 AM »
The level of denial on this thread beggars belief.

How can selling two of our three best players in one summer be good for AVFC?

Why do most of you assume that all the Young and Downing money will be reinvested in the squad?

It’s clear what is happening here. O’Neill left because the Milner money was not being reinvested but used instead to service the Club’s debt, which was spiralling up towards the £100 million mark. Lerner had to use this money unexpectedly to buy Bent to get us out of the shit in January and has now recouped that money from the sale of Young. He was only willing to use some of it for a Keeper out of necessity.

This is why there have been no approaches for any players, because AM has to generate his own transfer funds.
 
And before you accuse me of re-hashing Mat Kendrick’s articles, see my previous posts on the ‘Lerner FFP’ thread and the ‘Summer Transfer Spend’ thread, which were both prior to Kendrick’s reports and tweets. (In fact I’m considering suing him for plagiarism!).

This is why the statements ‘Bent was bought with the Milner money’ and ‘The Ash money was used to pay for Bent’ are not conflicting statements!

Btw, my prediction on the ‘Summer Transfer Spend’ thread, of a net spend of minus £10 million is looking pretty good right now. In fact at the moment it’s looking like wild optimism.


I think you know I dont agree with a lot of what you're saying. But you havent been proven wrong yet either.
I hope you will be and I know you do too.

Too many Mazrims there, it's messing with my head man.

I'm good Mazrim, he is evil Mazrim.
It's more exciting than James and Tom.

Ha! Your SuperOptimism ShieldTM is no match for my MegaNegativity BombsTM





Offline Mazrim

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #348 on: July 14, 2011, 11:32:49 AM »
Actually, I'd say Downing's crossing is better than Young's but that's about it. Young is notably superior.
Let's not forget Young had an average season whereas Downing probably had his best.

Anyway, they play for somebody else now. Bastards!

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #349 on: July 14, 2011, 11:34:56 AM »
Here, here,

At least we'll hopefully have a player who wants to be here rather than a half hearted pussycat with little spine

Well done to all concerned in making a profit on the deal

Awesome. What formation will this side, shorn of its creativity, play this coming season? I really hope we get some replacements in soon or I can see a desperate season coming up.

Offline London Villan

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #350 on: July 14, 2011, 11:36:10 AM »
Bent will be handing in a transfer request at Christmas... why would he hang around now the two of the main reasons he signed have left.

£35m for him, no doubt people would "snap their hands off" for this money.

Can this close season get any worse...

Offline Mazrim

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #351 on: July 14, 2011, 11:37:36 AM »
The level of denial on this thread beggars belief.

How can selling two of our three best players in one summer be good for AVFC?

Why do most of you assume that all the Young and Downing money will be reinvested in the squad?

It’s clear what is happening here. O’Neill left because the Milner money was not being reinvested but used instead to service the Club’s debt, which was spiralling up towards the £100 million mark. Lerner had to use this money unexpectedly to buy Bent to get us out of the shit in January and has now recouped that money from the sale of Young. He was only willing to use some of it for a Keeper out of necessity.

This is why there have been no approaches for any players, because AM has to generate his own transfer funds.
 
And before you accuse me of re-hashing Mat Kendrick’s articles, see my previous posts on the ‘Lerner FFP’ thread and the ‘Summer Transfer Spend’ thread, which were both prior to Kendrick’s reports and tweets. (In fact I’m considering suing him for plagiarism!).

This is why the statements ‘Bent was bought with the Milner money’ and ‘The Ash money was used to pay for Bent’ are not conflicting statements!

Btw, my prediction on the ‘Summer Transfer Spend’ thread, of a net spend of minus £10 million is looking pretty good right now. In fact at the moment it’s looking like wild optimism.


I think you know I dont agree with a lot of what you're saying. But you havent been proven wrong yet either.
I hope you will be and I know you do too.

Too many Mazrims there, it's messing with my head man.

I'm good Mazrim, he is evil Mazrim.
It's more exciting than James and Tom.

Ha! Your SuperOptimism ShieldTM is no match for my MegaNegativity BombsTM


Then taste molten philosopherays, miscreant!

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #352 on: July 14, 2011, 11:38:24 AM »
I agree with the club's statement about replacements being available. And that, in my opinion, is the most important action after our recent departures.

It is going to be an interesting few weeks at VP.

4 weeks until the start of the season. They need to get interesting really quickly.

Interestingly the chairman of Wolves said yesterday they had been negotiating the deal for Johnson ever since Blues were relagated yet I hadn't heard a single link until he was having his medical.So who knows who we're in for and how long it will take

It was reported in the Mail weeks if not months ago.

Online Stu

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #353 on: July 14, 2011, 11:40:42 AM »
I agree with the club's statement about replacements being available. And that, in my opinion, is the most important action after our recent departures.

It is going to be an interesting few weeks at VP.

4 weeks until the start of the season. They need to get interesting really quickly.

Interestingly the chairman of Wolves said yesterday they had been negotiating the deal for Johnson ever since Blues were relagated yet I hadn't heard a single link until he was having his medical.So who knows who we're in for and how long it will take

Have Wolves just lost four first teamers as well?

Offline Mazrim

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #354 on: July 14, 2011, 11:40:52 AM »
Bent will be handing in a transfer request at Christmas... why would he hang around now the two of the main reasons he signed have left.

£35m for him, no doubt people would "snap their hands off" for this money.

Can this close season get any worse...

If Albrighton, N'Zogbia and somebody else is supplying him just as well, why should he care?
It's not like Downing, Young and him were bessie mates. I doubt he joined just because they were here.
We do need to make sure we have players that can get the ball to him though. AM said as much.

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #355 on: July 14, 2011, 11:46:52 AM »
Liverpool fans saying downing is better than ash young ..fook off ..

Well to be fair, they would say that. He's not, obviously. He can't cross as well, isn't as fast, doesn't track back, doesn't tackle, isn't as good with the ball at his feet and doesn't have AY's vision for a pass.

They need to tell themselves that because Man U got the better player. And for less money. Liverpool have to pay big money to get what they want now, the lustre has gone.

I just had a quick look at a Liverpool site and I thought they had signed Ronaldo

Give them until Xmas and see what they think of the ponce then

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #356 on: July 14, 2011, 11:47:11 AM »
On its own I'm not particularly sad Downing's gone. It was going to happen either this summer or next so at least we've got the money for someone who hasn't been that good. Plus he's really showed himself in his true light in the last month. Expecting a bit of loyalty after saving someone's career is perhaps a bit naive of me but the way he's jumped ship the second Liverpool flirted with him confirms all my worst suspicions about the modern day footballer. So overall he's not a big loss individually.

However, given whats happened in the last 12 months and especially since the season's ended,, this just adds to the feeling of decay at the club. 12months ago i wouldn't have been worred that we'll get the full amount to spend and that it will be spent on quality players. Now, I'm not so sure it will and i'm quessing people like Bent are thinking exactly the same.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #357 on: July 14, 2011, 12:05:44 PM »
I agree with the club's statement about replacements being available. And that, in my opinion, is the most important action after our recent departures.

It is going to be an interesting few weeks at VP.

4 weeks until the start of the season. They need to get interesting really quickly.

Interestingly the chairman of Wolves said yesterday they had been negotiating the deal for Johnson ever since Blues were relagated yet I hadn't heard a single link until he was having his medical.So who knows who we're in for and how long it will take

Have Wolves just lost four first teamers as well?
I don't get your point ? All I was saying is who knows who are targets are and how far down the line we are with them

Online Stu

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #358 on: July 14, 2011, 12:13:37 PM »
I agree with the club's statement about replacements being available. And that, in my opinion, is the most important action after our recent departures.

It is going to be an interesting few weeks at VP.

4 weeks until the start of the season. They need to get interesting really quickly.

Interestingly the chairman of Wolves said yesterday they had been negotiating the deal for Johnson ever since Blues were relagated yet I hadn't heard a single link until he was having his medical.So who knows who we're in for and how long it will take

Have Wolves just lost four first teamers as well?
I don't get your point ? All I was saying is who knows who are targets are and how far down the line we are with them

I mis-read your post. I dread to think of the time-frame Villa require.

Offline King of the Nørth

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Re: Liverpool agree Downing fee
« Reply #359 on: July 14, 2011, 12:24:20 PM »


 No wonder villa fans have a reputation as moaners, christ how depressing is it to be a Villa fan right now? I desperately try not to read negative posts/articles and be positive but to be honest I havent got the will to fight it anymore. Permission to slit my wrists?

 


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