Club Statement

[pauliewalnuts]

Why do you have to be quite so over the top about things, Chris?

"Constantly going on about how you don't rate him" - slight exaggeration. It's almost like you don't want people to say what they think when the new manager is being discussed, like it'll all go away.

I'm going to give him a chance and get behind him. You seem to want us all to stop being so nasty about his past record.

[Eigentor]

I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

This is a discussion forum, isn't it? There wouldn't be much discussion if everybody said: "Let's see how it goes."

[Chris Smith]

Why do you have to be quite so over the top about things, Chris?

"Constantly going on about how you don't rate him" - slight exaggeration. It's almost like you don't want people to say what they think when the new manager is being discussed, like it'll all go away.

I'm going to give him a chance and get behind him. You seem to want us all to stop being so nasty about his past record.

It's not an exaggeration at all. A lot of people say they're going to give him a chance but inavariably only mention the negatives and it happens across threads on a daily basis.

[Chris Smith]

I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

This is a discussion forum, isn't it? There wouldn't be much discussion if everybody said: "Let's see how it goes."

It's not much of a discussion when you just keeop saying the same thing over and over again as Damon recently discovered.

[pauliewalnuts]

Why do you have to be quite so over the top about things, Chris?

"Constantly going on about how you don't rate him" - slight exaggeration. It's almost like you don't want people to say what they think when the new manager is being discussed, like it'll all go away.

I'm going to give him a chance and get behind him. You seem to want us all to stop being so nasty about his past record.

It's not an exaggeration at all. A lot of people say they're going to give him a chance but inavariably only mention the negatives and it happens across threads on a daily basis.

If that's the way the people feel, when the manager is being discussed, what do you expect?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I'm not ignoring it, I'm just not choosing to to spend my days banging on about it endlessly.

I said at the time of his appointment that he had a clean slate and I would judge him on the job he does for us. That hasn't changed. I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

Chris.
It's gone 12, time for your medication, don't get carried away.
You'll be doling out your NOTW comparisons next.

We're on a forum about all things AVFC, the Manager of the club will obviously take up a large part of what we talk about.
It seems only natural that his confusing appointment gets bought up when we're discussing anything to do with the board.

Your best bet is for you to avoid any thread that makes mention of McLeish's record.

[Chris Smith]

I'm not ignoring it, I'm just not choosing to to spend my days banging on about it endlessly.

I said at the time of his appointment that he had a clean slate and I would judge him on the job he does for us. That hasn't changed. I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

Chris.
It's gone 12, time for your medication, don't get carried away.
You'll be doling out your NOTW comparisons next.

We're on a forum about all things AVFC, the Manager of the club will obviously take up a large part of what we talk about.
It seems only natural that his confusing appointment gets bought up when we're discussing anything to do with the board.

Your best bet is for you to avoid any thread that makes mention of McLeish's record.

You're the one not prepared to accept any view other than the one that says he's fucking usless.

The reality is that there are positives and negatives in his record and trying to rule some out just to suit your standpoint doesn't mean that you're right.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I'm not ignoring it, I'm just not choosing to to spend my days banging on about it endlessly.

I said at the time of his appointment that he had a clean slate and I would judge him on the job he does for us. That hasn't changed. I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

Chris.
It's gone 12, time for your medication, don't get carried away.
You'll be doling out your NOTW comparisons next.

We're on a forum about all things AVFC, the Manager of the club will obviously take up a large part of what we talk about.
It seems only natural that his confusing appointment gets bought up when we're discussing anything to do with the board.

Your best bet is for you to avoid any thread that makes mention of McLeish's record.

You're the one not prepared to accept any view other than the one that says he's fucking usless.

The reality is that there are positives and negatives in his record and trying to rule some out just to suit your standpoint doesn't mean that you're right.

'Fucking useless' is somewhat of an exaggeration.

I agree about the positives and negatives, but I believe the negatives outweigh the positives.

Putting that aside, I think we're a big enough act to expect a better standard of Manager than McLeish.

[Eigentor]

I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

This is a discussion forum, isn't it? There wouldn't be much discussion if everybody said: "Let's see how it goes."

It's not much of a discussion when you just keeop saying the same thing over and over again as Damon recently discovered.

It may be disappointing that not every thread is a frontier toward new-found insights, but I don't think that I've read more posts by Fletch saying AM's shit than posts by you say that he should be given a chance.

[Risso]

When McLeish's name was first mooted Chris, your reaction was "I don't believe the board would be that stupid" (or words to that effect.)  Well they have, and it doesn't stop being stupid I'm afraid.

[Chris Smith]

I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

This is a discussion forum, isn't it? There wouldn't be much discussion if everybody said: "Let's see how it goes."

It's not much of a discussion when you just keeop saying the same thing over and over again as Damon recently discovered.

It may be disappointing that not every thread is a frontier toward new-found insights, but I don't think that I've read more posts by Fletch saying AM's shit than posts by you say that he should be given a chance.

Then you can't count.

[Eigentor]

I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

This is a discussion forum, isn't it? There wouldn't be much discussion if everybody said: "Let's see how it goes."

It's not much of a discussion when you just keeop saying the same thing over and over again as Damon recently discovered.

It may be disappointing that not every thread is a frontier toward new-found insights, but I don't think that I've read more posts by Fletch saying AM's shit than posts by you say that he should be given a chance.

Then you can't count.

Perhaps. Or maybe you tire more easily of other's opinions than your own.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I'm not sure what is to be achieved by constantly going on about how you don't rate him.

This is a discussion forum, isn't it? There wouldn't be much discussion if everybody said: "Let's see how it goes."

It's not much of a discussion when you just keeop saying the same thing over and over again as Damon recently discovered.

It may be disappointing that not every thread is a frontier toward new-found insights, but I don't think that I've read more posts by Fletch saying AM's shit than posts by you say that he should be given a chance.

Then you can't count.

Like you, i'll give him a chance, i've got no choice have I?
But it doesn't make his previous record disappear, it doesn't allay concerns about mind-numbingly boring football, it doesn't erase the suspicion that he was appointed to work with a tight budget.

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see him be a success, I couldn't give a shit how daft i'd look as long as the club are flying.

Till then his record will be debated to the nth degree, he's got everything to prove, the board believe he's a rough gem and we'll see what happens.

It's still a baffling appointment on so many levels and while the bafflement is there you're going to see continuous references to it.

[Chris Smith]

When McLeish's name was first mooted Chris, your reaction was "I don't believe the board would be that stupid" (or words to that effect.)  Well they have, and it doesn't stop being stupid I'm afraid.

But they've done it now, he's our manager and I'm prepared to be open minded about it. He might be the disaster that many of you are convinced he will be or perhaps his positive attributes will come to the fore at a bigger and better club. All I'm saying is that I will make my mind up based on what he does for us not prejudge him on what has gone before.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

When McLeish's name was first mooted Chris, your reaction was "I don't believe the board would be that stupid" (or words to that effect.)  Well they have, and it doesn't stop being stupid I'm afraid.

But they've done it now, he's our manager and I'm prepared to be open minded about it. He might be the disaster that many of you are convinced he will be or perhaps his positive attributes will come to the fore at a bigger and better club. All I'm saying is that I will make my mind up based on what he does for us not prejudge him on what has gone before.

How can you not have an opinion on somebody based on their previous work record?

You wouldn't appoint Glenn Roeder on the basis that
'All his relegations happened before he came to us.'