From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages

[Villa'Zawg]

Indeed, he gave professional debuts to the likes of Clark, Albrighton, Bannan, Lowry and Delfouneso, as well as awarding professional contracts to several others.

I wonder how many games they racked up between them under MON.

I've no idea but I'd imagine it was about the same amount as similar young players at other top six teams.

[tarzansbrother]

Any idea what the wage bill is now given we have taken Sidwell, Carew, NRC, Young, Davies and Friedal off it since last year amongst others?

Wasn't £60m the figure the club want wages to be at?

[Greg N'Ash]

*Sigh* are you really saying MON hadn't agreed to Milner leaving or Ireland wasn't bought by him? More conspicacy theories no doubt..........

This is probably the most futile argument ever. He was sold after O'Neill left. It isn't a conspiracy to say so, that's what happened.

I was talking about MON legacy in players left. You seem to be making out that we decided to flog Milner after he left when the reality is it was already rubbed stamped. In fact MON was telling everyone he was going to leave a month earlier even without asking Milner first. so whether MON had stayed or left milner would still have gone. Likewise Ireland would still have arrived. So claiming MON left us with a team containing Milner is while technically correct in time-line, in any real sense its bobbins.

[Villa'Zawg]

*Sigh* are you really saying MON hadn't agreed to Milner leaving or Ireland wasn't bought by him? More conspicacy theories no doubt..........

This is probably the most futile argument ever. He was sold after O'Neill left. It isn't a conspiracy to say so, that's what happened.

I was talking about MON legacy in players left. You seem to be making out that we decided to flog Milner after he left when the reality is it was already rubbed stamped. In fact MON was telling everyone he was going to leave a month earlier even without asking Milner first. so whether MON had stayed or left milner would still have gone. Likewise Ireland would still have arrived. So claiming MON left us with a team containing Milner is while technically correct in time-line, in any real sense its bobbins.

Of course I wasn't making out anything of the sort.

I had made the point "We spent approx £80m net during O'Neill's tenure. We've raised £43m by selling Milner and Young and can push that figure through £60m if we sell Downing." and you decided to respond to it directly with some inaccurate and misleading gubbins, that needed correcting.

[Greg N'Ash]

*Sigh* are you really saying MON hadn't agreed to Milner leaving or Ireland wasn't bought by him? More conspicacy theories no doubt..........

This is probably the most futile argument ever. He was sold after O'Neill left. It isn't a conspiracy to say so, that's what happened.

I was talking about MON legacy in players left. You seem to be making out that we decided to flog Milner after he left when the reality is it was already rubbed stamped. In fact MON was telling everyone he was going to leave a month earlier even without asking Milner first. so whether MON had stayed or left milner would still have gone. Likewise Ireland would still have arrived. So claiming MON left us with a team containing Milner is while technically correct in time-line, in any real sense its bobbins.

Of course I wasn't making out anything of the sort.

I had made the point "We spent approx £80m net during O'Neill's tenure. We've raised £43m by selling Milner and Young and can push that figure through £60m if we sell Downing." and you decided to respond to it directly with some inaccurate and misleading gubbins, that needed correcting.

erm...... actually that was your response to me saying there was hardly anything left in MON's squad of any quality and that would be useful in the coming years.. What your point has to do with anything i was saying is beyond me. If you believe selling 2 players in young and milner makes up for the small hodge pot of old men, deadwood, nutters and trouble makers that is the remnants of MON's 30 odd purchases  a mere 11 months after he left then thats your delusion. I think it showed at best he expected 80m for new players every 4 years and at worse he had no idea about building a team to last beyound a couple of seasons. Maybe he was hoping if he got into the CL a big GAME OVER sign would appear in front of his eyes and he could retire.

[eamonn]

Bobbins and gubbins... Great words...

Sorry, carry on.

[UsualSuspect]

The crop of youngsters we’re talking about all came through the ranks whilst O’Neill was in charge of the football side of things. Indeed, he gave professional debuts to the likes of Clark, Albrighton, Bannan, Lowry and Delfouneso, as well as awarding professional contracts to several others.
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I think the word is debut namely one game.

All of those youngsters put together didnt start 10 games under MON.

MOn would have started with petrov in traction rather than giving those kids a chance

[not3bad]

I think we should rename the thread now - VillaDawg v Risso Part 259

Get ahead of the game!

Haven't you heard? I'm considered a lilly-livered moderate these days. Paulie even agrees with me every now and then.

OK, Villadawg V Gregnash then!

[Percy McCarthy]

The crop of youngsters we’re talking about all came through the ranks whilst O’Neill was in charge of the football side of things. Indeed, he gave professional debuts to the likes of Clark, Albrighton, Bannan, Lowry and Delfouneso, as well as awarding professional contracts to several others.
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I think the word is debut namely one game.

All of those youngsters put together didnt start 10 games under MON.

MOn would have started with petrov in traction rather than giving those kids a chance

He gave Gabby a few games.

[Percy McCarthy]

*Sigh* are you really saying MON hadn't agreed to Milner leaving or Ireland wasn't bought by him? More conspicacy theories no doubt..........

This is probably the most futile argument ever. He was sold after O'Neill left. It isn't a conspiracy to say so, that's what happened.

I was talking about MON legacy in players left. You seem to be making out that we decided to flog Milner after he left when the reality is it was already rubbed stamped. In fact MON was telling everyone he was going to leave a month earlier even without asking Milner first. so whether MON had stayed or left milner would still have gone. Likewise Ireland would still have arrived. So claiming MON left us with a team containing Milner is while technically correct in time-line, in any real sense its bobbins.

Of course I wasn't making out anything of the sort.

I had made the point "We spent approx £80m net during O'Neill's tenure. We've raised £43m by selling Milner and Young and can push that figure through £60m if we sell Downing." and you decided to respond to it directly with some inaccurate and misleading gubbins, that needed correcting.

erm...... actually that was your response to me saying there was hardly anything left in MON's squad of any quality and that would be useful in the coming years.. What your point has to do with anything i was saying is beyond me. If you believe selling 2 players in young and milner makes up for the small hodge pot of old men, deadwood, nutters and trouble makers that is the remnants of MON's 30 odd purchases  a mere 11 months after he left then thats your delusion. I think it showed at best he expected 80m for new players every 4 years and at worse he had no idea about building a team to last beyound a couple of seasons. Maybe he was hoping if he got into the CL a big GAME OVER sign would appear in front of his eyes and he could retire.

Either he sold Milner and his net spend was £54m, or he didn't, and his net spend was £80m. You can't have it both ways.

[pauliewalnuts]

The crop of youngsters we’re talking about all came through the ranks whilst O’Neill was in charge of the football side of things. Indeed, he gave professional debuts to the likes of Clark, Albrighton, Bannan, Lowry and Delfouneso, as well as awarding professional contracts to several others.
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I think the word is debut namely one game.

All of those youngsters put together didnt start 10 games under MON.

MOn would have started with petrov in traction rather than giving those kids a chance

He gave Gabby a few games.

Although Gabby he inherited when he had fewer decent options up front.

Thinking about that, I really liked that front line of Gabby out wide on one side, Moore on the other and Angel in the middle. It was all a bit makeshift and was never going to propel us to greatness, but it was pretty good to watch at times.

[Concrete John]

*Sigh* are you really saying MON hadn't agreed to Milner leaving or Ireland wasn't bought by him? More conspicacy theories no doubt..........

This is probably the most futile argument ever. He was sold after O'Neill left. It isn't a conspiracy to say so, that's what happened.

I was talking about MON legacy in players left. You seem to be making out that we decided to flog Milner after he left when the reality is it was already rubbed stamped. In fact MON was telling everyone he was going to leave a month earlier even without asking Milner first. so whether MON had stayed or left milner would still have gone. Likewise Ireland would still have arrived. So claiming MON left us with a team containing Milner is while technically correct in time-line, in any real sense its bobbins.

Of course I wasn't making out anything of the sort.

I had made the point "We spent approx £80m net during O'Neill's tenure. We've raised £43m by selling Milner and Young and can push that figure through £60m if we sell Downing." and you decided to respond to it directly with some inaccurate and misleading gubbins, that needed correcting.

erm...... actually that was your response to me saying there was hardly anything left in MON's squad of any quality and that would be useful in the coming years.. What your point has to do with anything i was saying is beyond me. If you believe selling 2 players in young and milner makes up for the small hodge pot of old men, deadwood, nutters and trouble makers that is the remnants of MON's 30 odd purchases  a mere 11 months after he left then thats your delusion. I think it showed at best he expected 80m for new players every 4 years and at worse he had no idea about building a team to last beyound a couple of seasons. Maybe he was hoping if he got into the CL a big GAME OVER sign would appear in front of his eyes and he could retire.

Either he sold Milner and his net spend was £54m, or he didn't, and his net spend was £80m. You can't have it both ways.

Trust me, he'll find a way!

[Risso]

Give the quote button a break please lads.

[UsualSuspect]

The crop of youngsters we’re talking about all came through the ranks whilst O’Neill was in charge of the football side of things. Indeed, he gave professional debuts to the likes of Clark, Albrighton, Bannan, Lowry and Delfouneso, as well as awarding professional contracts to several others.
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I think the word is debut namely one game.

All of those youngsters put together didnt start 10 games under MON.

MOn would have started with petrov in traction rather than giving those kids a chance

He gave Gabby a few games.

Im sure gabby was in the first team under DOL

[CBAV06]

Bobbins and gubbins... Great words...

Sorry, carry on.

I'd wager they are either hobbits or bit players from Harry Potter.