Stephen Ireland - Clean Slate?

[villan1975]

Football moves on so quickly I doubt he will ever be a top premiership performer after such a long lay off.
Would rather he rot forever in the reserves or cleaning the toilets.
Unfortunately we would be shooting ourselves in the foot so give him a chance just to get rid.

[KevinGage]

McLeish might be genuine on wanting to give him a chance, but Ireland does seem the type who needs to believe in the manager and set up and I'm not sure that'll be the case.

Would be more confident that he could turn the situation around if Hughes was manager, but can't see it now.  That's not a pop at McLeish, it's just that different managers have different approaches and whatever MH did at Man Citeh, it seemed to get the best out of the oddball.

It might have been Bellamy last season, before one of our games who said his best for for Citeh was on the left on a central three. So maybe that's where we went wrong.

[Rancid custard]

I said I'd support Eck, but if part of this is giving that odious little troll another chance then I'm not so sure, he's given us nothing but bile and absolute contempt.

[Chris Smith]

We have to at least pretend to give him another chance if only to try to get some other mugs to buy him.

No, we have to give him a chance full stop.  If it's a clean slate for McLeish, it has to be for everybody.  You never know, Ireland may respond well, and then we'll have a cracking player on our hands.  It may well be that we end up with a crackpot player on our hands again, but we have to try.

I sense a case of double standards here.  What trouble did Ireland ever cause for Man City while he was there?  Other than a penchant for tasteless cars and the granny stuff (which was for his country and not club in any case) I don't remember hearing any stories that would give rise to that view.

He's a twat, always has been and always will be. If we're lucky we'll get £500k for him from Leicester.

Not at all. I didn't want him in the first place and was castigated on here for calling him a border line metalist when we were linked with him. When he signed I gave him the benefit of the doubt but instead of giving me cause to question my initial stance he went out of his way to confirm it.

[TimTheVillain]

We have to at least pretend to give him another chance if only to try to get some other mugs to buy him.

No, we have to give him a chance full stop.  If it's a clean slate for McLeish, it has to be for everybody.  You never know, Ireland may respond well, and then we'll have a cracking player on our hands.  It may well be that we end up with a crackpot player on our hands again, but we have to try.

I sense a case of double standards here.  What trouble did Ireland ever cause for Man City while he was there?  Other than a penchant for tasteless cars and the granny stuff (which was for his country and not club in any case) I don't remember hearing any stories that would give rise to that view.

He's a twat, always has been and always will be. If we're lucky we'll get £500k for him from Leicester.

Not at all. I didn't want him in the first place and was castigated on here for calling him a border line metalist when we were linked with him. When he signed I gave him the benefit of the doubt but instead of giving me cause to question my initial stance he went out of his way to confirm it.

Chris, he didn't want to sign for us, he was told to.

Then he faced a Manager who couldn't work with him ( he's not the only player in that boat) so, give the guy a break.

He can play, ask any Citeh fan.

[QBVILLA]

I admire the moral stance being taken here by a lot of people.However as has been demonstrated in recent months if a player starts doing well then the fans soon forget the players misdemeanours.

[Ad@m]

How many chances does he need?  He messed it up at Man City by believing his own hype and going from their most naturally talented player to someone nowhere near the squad, to pissing his international career down the drain through outrageous stupidity to showing levels of unprofessionalism rarely seen when signing for us and clearly not giving a toss.

It's not just whether he can contribute to the team or not, it's the affect he has on the other players.  If he's slagging the place off (as he's already done very publicly) whilst training at Bodymoor then it's going to damage the team ethic.  It was a painful and expensive mistake but we're better off getting him out of the club, either on loan or for good ASAP.

[olaftab]

Yes why not. Let's give him another chance and see if we can turn a turd into gold.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

If Mcleish can get Ireland performing to his very best then he has execeptional man management skills.
It would be an even greater achievment than what Brian Clough did with Kenny Burns career. 

[LeeB]

Fuck him off, no question.

The ******.

[Iago]

I hope Eck transforms Ireland; and I take comfort from the fact he got Lee Bowyer performing very well at SHA.

[IRISHPHIL]

hope all players should be given a chance , but step out of line once and out the door they must go, whoever it is

[JUAN PABLO]

7 milion and ireland for Nzogbia ...

[Le Lapin]

Is that an ITK on conjecture?

[JUAN PABLO]

Is that an ITK on conjecture?

nah , If I was AM  ;-)