Randys Reaction

[richard moore]

Great post Malcolm. I have been completely baffled by the adulation afforded O'Neill on his arrival and the criticism of AM for his style of football and winning trophies mainly in Scotland. I can't see the difference in any way at all. Perception is an amazing thing, it really is...

[Lee]

He won't walk but a few points. I have found myself toughening my position against the screamers over the last couple of days so lord only knows what Randy makes of it.

If these protests have done nothing else it is to ensure that the board will not be so accommodating to the fans in future.

I agree that fan power being an influence on the Board can be a bad thing in the normal scheme of things, but the Board have brought this on themselves in its entirety, and I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Spot on post Malcolm. MON biggest success was in the SPL. Celtic fans regulary slated him for boring football. I have got to let this "nose" thing go now. (well soon anyway) I am sure no manager we could of appointed will try as hard as him to get this right. Ok his previous is poor. But Randy will back him and if he brings in his former chief scout (Paul Montgomery) Who has a very good reputation. (Drogba, Malouda) and has fantastic contacts. I think he is going to suprise a lot of us come the new year ...........

[pooligan]

Learner wont have to watch the boring football served up by our new manager every home match like the fans. When i looked to see if he was at the match more often than not he was,nt .Maybe mr woodhall can tell me how many games he actually attends.

[dave.woodhall]

Learner wont have to watch the boring football served up by our new manager every home match like the fans. When i looked to see if he was at the match more often than not he was,nt .Maybe mr woodhall can tell me how many games he actually attends.

How should I know?

[pooligan]

Hello mr woodhall, i just thought from my many chats with you over the years you would know. Hope your not losing your touch mate.

[Fuse]

Just out of interest has anyone ever seen proof of this so called tattoo Lerner is supposed to ahve on his leg? Or is that more PR bullshit from General Krulak?

As for Lerner, I think this is phase 1 of an exit strategy which will involve providing limited funds to keep us in the PL whilst he looks for a buyer. He will probably ramp up selling our best players alogn the way to recoup on his investment.

I think he will be gone within 18 months.

[RunRickyRun]

Just out of interest has anyone ever seen proof of this so called tattoo Lerner is supposed to ahve on his leg? Or is that more PR bullshit from General Krulak?

As for Lerner, I think this is phase 1 of an exit strategy which will involve providing limited funds to keep us in the PL whilst he looks for a buyer. He will probably ramp up selling our best players alogn the way to recoup on his investment.

I think he will be gone within 18 months.

So you prepare to sell a business by risking alienating your customers?

If anything it shows he's in for the long haul. A person looking to sell would splash out on a big name manager to artificially increase gate receipts,  merchandise sold and increase the profile of the club.

[Fuse]

Just out of interest has anyone ever seen proof of this so called tattoo Lerner is supposed to ahve on his leg? Or is that more PR bullshit from General Krulak?

As for Lerner, I think this is phase 1 of an exit strategy which will involve providing limited funds to keep us in the PL whilst he looks for a buyer. He will probably ramp up selling our best players alogn the way to recoup on his investment.

I think he will be gone within 18 months.

So you prepare to sell a business by risking alienating your customers?

If anything it shows he's in for the long haul. A person looking to sell would splash out on a big name manager to artificially increase gate receipts,  merchandise sold and increase the profile of the club.

The value fo the club is in it's infrastructure, stadium, property, training ground etc. The brand is important as it the size of its fanbase. The only thing which would make Villa more valuable is if we were nailed onf ro teh CL which we aren't So for Randy to recoup his money he needs to sell players and if he can do that and keep Villa in the PL the value fo the club to a buyer does not diminsih. Say Villa is worth £100m at the moment and Randy sells Darren Bent.Ashley Young and Downing, the club will still be worth £100m but Randy will be £60m better off.

So if he can do this and AM keeps us in the league then Randyw ill still have the club to sell but will have got some of his outlay in players back.

[Gaz Jones]

I've just had to re-register as haven't been on here for a very long time, but reading some of the comments on here has got the old juices flowing again!

There is a lot that depresses me about football at the moment.  Money, players, WAGS, Sky television, ITV, The BBC, Alan Hansen, all-seaters, the Champions League, The Europa League, The Premier League, FIFA, UEFA, The FA, Sepp Blatter, The England Team and just about every F**king thing else.

The one thing that didn't depress me was supporting a club where, at least I thought, the supporters understood that it takes time to build something worthwhile.  I couldn't give a shit how much Chelsea or Man City or anyone else spends, we have been going about things the right way.  Whichever way you look at it, I can't believe anyone thinks that the board haven't done enough yet to be given a chance when they make a decision.

I'm not any kind of McLeish apologist, but I'm not going to over-react either.  You know, just maybe there is a chance that some thought went into the process of appointing a new manager.  And before anyone says about him getting relegated twice, this is Birmingham City we are talking about.  Anyone that can manage to win a trophy with that shower of bastards must have something about him.

This last week may have been a PR disaster, but that's about the worst thing about it.  Ultimately, the board have appointed a manager who they feel is equipped to do the best job for Aston Villa, and no matter what anyone says there were other options available.  Give him a half decent squad, an owner who will let him get on with things in his own way and back him when needed, and a support that can fill a 40K plus stadium and who knows.  At the very least, both manager and owner should be given a chance.

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think Randy will put more money in the club but he won't exceed 20 millions pound a year.

[ez]

Its all on Randys head. Nobody else i know of wanted McLeish so if this goes tits up the blames all his own.

[blokeyinbrum]

 The major problem at Aston Villa is that the hierarchy that run the club are not football people.
Lerner is obviously not a stupid man but by that token he is not a football man and the two managerial appointments he has been forced to make have exposed him to his naivity.
Houlliers appointment was  obviously a knee jerk reaction and the appointment of McLeish ill advised. Ive never been in favour of the continental model of club management but Lerner, Faulkener, and Krulak (who is this man???) need to concentrate on running the club whilst allowing a director of the football to run all matters football. Lerner is trying to multitask both rolls and is only qualified to do one, unfortunately without a change of business model the 'other one' will only suffer.

[CBAV06]

  Ultimately, the board have appointed a manager who they feel is equipped to do the best job for Aston Villa, and no matter what anyone says there were other options available.

Now quit trying to bring logic into this, it will only make things more confusing!!

Re: Most Browns fans wouldn't piss on him... Pure trash. Just because someone says "Most People" doesnt make it "Most" and doesnt make "Most People" right. There are tons of stupid Browns fans that place the blame on whatever is easiest. This is just another way that the Browns and Villa are similar

Re: 'A better manager' this one is really easy to discuss. If you really believe that there was a better manager that was going to step up for Villa just link us the comment where he says he will be happy to take the job. If my grandma is the only one interested and available to fill the position...she IS the best choice at the time.

[myf]

London, Manchester, and Liverpool are awash with successful, competative football clubs.

Unfortunatey we live in Birmingham a city that's managed one League Championship in 100 years.

Clearly it's down to Aston Villa to give the people of Birmingham something to shout about, but I think it's fairly clear now that with Randy Lerner as owner  we'll do no more than tread water.

 

THis precisely. THe appointment of shit like AM confirns to me Lerner has neither the wherewithal or nous to nmake a real go of it; as such he should f*ck off and take his lickspittle lackies with hinm and sell to someoene who can put us in a position to really compete. From day one he's been riding the baloney pony - fed us all shovels full of horseshit which we gullibly swallowed down  after enduring Ellis's tenure. In short we were duped. Most Browns fans as far as my undertanding goes wouldn't piss on Lerner if he was on fire. I'm now beginning to understand why....

After reading this drivel I'm glad I've been away from Birmingham for the past week.  Anyone would think that Trevor Francis had just bought AVFC.