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Offline D.boy

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #225 on: June 13, 2011, 01:40:31 AM »
In answer to the thread title - NO

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #226 on: June 13, 2011, 01:49:33 AM »
The biggest fuck off no you could imagine.

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #227 on: June 13, 2011, 02:16:25 AM »
The biggest fuck off no you could imagine.

Would be my answer, too.

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #228 on: June 13, 2011, 06:38:00 AM »

Your just looking at the silverware won where the point mentioned is to do with a manager leaving the club and the historical referece to RS departure. It not about whether who was the greatest manager.

Okay, so Saunders left a legacy where a rookie manager won the European Cup and O'Neill left a legacy where an experienced manage who had previously won the European Cup could only struggle to mid-table.

Dave, pedant alert.

I am no Scouse historian but I am certain Ged never won the European Cup. Benitez won it in what I think was his first season.

Ged did OK at Liverpool, primarily in that 2001 season, but he never won the league or Old Big Ears. I would have liked him to remain in charge this summer as I think he could have surprised a few people with a full pre-season.

No to MON coming back for me. In my opinion he did a good job - three 6th place finishes, knowing we would give anybody a game and be hard to beat, our first final in a decade, etc - but coming back would be unpopular and pointless. Nobody out there excites me at the moment though, and there is no perfect candidate we're overlooking. It could be a strange summer in B6.

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #229 on: June 13, 2011, 06:45:29 AM »
Houllier had won the UEFA cup though hadn't he.

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #230 on: June 13, 2011, 06:47:20 AM »
Thanks for that, Mr Floppy. (winky)

McLeish is an upgrade on MON but that doesn't mean he's still not crap. Can we please move into the 21st century? Please!

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #231 on: June 13, 2011, 08:00:11 AM »
I'd rather stick my knob in an E-Coli infected bacon slicer than have O'Neill back.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #232 on: June 13, 2011, 08:01:15 AM »
So go on.  A straight choice of either MON or McLeish, no one else, who would you choose to be in the Villa Park dugout next season?

When they went head to head with Rangers and Celtic, who came out on top?
McLeish.

Offline Gaztonniller

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #233 on: June 13, 2011, 08:11:52 AM »

Your just looking at the silverware won where the point mentioned is to do with a manager leaving the club and the historical referece to RS departure. It not about whether who was the greatest manager.

Okay, so Saunders left a legacy where a rookie manager won the European Cup and O'Neill left a legacy where an experienced manage who had previously won the European Cup could only struggle to mid-table.

Dave, pedant alert.

I am no Scouse historian but I am certain Ged never won the European Cup. Benitez won it in what I think was his first season.

Ged did OK at Liverpool, primarily in that 2001 season, but he never won the league or Old Big Ears. I would have liked him to remain in charge this summer as I think he could have surprised a few people with a full pre-season.

No to MON coming back for me. In my opinion he did a good job - three 6th place finishes, knowing we would give anybody a game and be hard to beat, our first final in a decade, etc - but coming back would be unpopular and pointless. Nobody out there excites me at the moment though, and there is no perfect candidate we're overlooking. It could be a strange summer in B6.

To parraphrase; - {In my opinion he did a good job - three 6th place finishes, knowing we would give anybody a game and be hard to beat, our first final in a decade, etc - but coming back would be unpopular and pointless. Nobody out there excites me at the moment though}.

AND add to that; restoring the clubs name and involment in europe. Being already familiar with most of the playing squad so the club can hit the premiership road running immediately (which is worth how many invaluable league points), and being (in the main ) judged by fans on behind the scenes circumstances that nobody really knows what went on, and a tribunial finding in his favour,  and no one else being out there at the moment available with a managerial record equal to MON. Inspite of all this, you still wouldnt give him your support if he walked back through the VP doors?   
The way are heading,  it might just be LC winner Mcleish in the hot seat!!!
Funny ol game football.
Inspite of all this looks like from the poll, a good percentage of fans would back him and the club if he did come back.   But I suppose it all about opinion.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 08:22:01 AM by Gaztonniller »

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #234 on: June 13, 2011, 08:17:21 AM »
Not bloody likely.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #235 on: June 13, 2011, 08:26:48 AM »
those 19 who voted yes are just the remnants of the MON happy clapper army. Fair play to them for attempting the near impossible job of rehabilitating his reputation, but frankly if we had a half decent manager in our sights by now, this thread wouldn't exist
« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 08:29:50 AM by gregnash »

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #236 on: June 13, 2011, 08:31:50 AM »
It may be true that the current situation creates a longing ofr times of managerial certainty, but lets cut the 'happy clapper' crap - people can have an opinion without needing to be labeled.

Personally I voted 'no' as there is too much water under the bridge now.  A club works best when the fans, manager and board are all getting on and pulling in one direction, which could now never happen under him.

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #237 on: June 13, 2011, 09:12:19 AM »
what would you say if he was given a budget to spend (subject to the sale of Milner), chose to spend it on McGeady and was knocked back by the board on the basis that they didn't think it was the right player to sign?
Still no reason to leave 5 days before the season. If McGeady was his target, then surely MON would have informed the board at the start of pre-season, so by your version of events they waited until the very last minute to say no? Do you really believe that? And where has this version come from by the way?

My understanding of things is that there couldn't be any signings until some of the deadwood was moved on to free up wages, irrespective of the milner sale.

That version of events is a completely made up version without any facts or information to substantiate it, which is exactly the same level of fact and information being used by people who call him a c*** for leaving when he did.

All we know is that O'Neill and Lerner no longer shared a vision of how to move forward. On that basis it is easy to imagine a scenario whereby O'Neill's position as manager had become untenable.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #238 on: June 13, 2011, 09:30:04 AM »
The General and others have more or less said it was MON who instigated his leaving, so not sharing a vision doesn't come into it. The guy threw his toys out of the pram and they cobbled together some statement about not sharing the same vision, because the alternative was to admit he'd left us totally unprepared for the new season with a brand new spanking 50k a week player who nobody wanted. Damage limitation, pure and simple.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #239 on: June 13, 2011, 09:42:23 AM »
those 19 who voted yes are just the remnants of the MON happy clapper army. Fair play to them for attempting the near impossible job of rehabilitating his reputation, but frankly if we had a half decent manager in our sights by now, this thread wouldn't exist
I wouldn't take much notice of the poll Greg.
According to the McLeish thread, 46 people (so far) want him as Villa Manager.

 


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