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Offline willywombat

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #105 on: June 11, 2011, 03:43:16 AM »
Wouldn't have him anywhere near the place after the way he spat his dummy out and left us in the shit. That and his lack of tactical nouse . Oh, and his propensity toward signing journeymen players and not giving them a game. He can bugger off

Offline olofmilosevic

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #106 on: June 11, 2011, 04:27:55 AM »
Absofuckinlutely NOT!!!!!! defo take the herpes over such a terrible idea!!!

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #107 on: June 11, 2011, 05:16:49 AM »
NO

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #108 on: June 11, 2011, 06:05:37 AM »
Regardless of how he left I would not want him back.  I am not saying he was bad enough to be sacked but for me he had run out of ideas.  He is a very formulaic manager and stubborn to boot.  If he had shown signs of trying to change and modernise his methods there would be a dilemma to have him back. 

However he showed no sign of extending his scouting network, spending more time on the training pitch, changing his assistant manger to inject some new ideas.  Based on that, I do not think he could have improved from our 6th-ish placed finishes.  He had plateaued and even to maintain that he would have probably needed to continue to spend money at a level we could not sustain.

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #109 on: June 11, 2011, 06:23:26 AM »
No chance. Shouldn't this have a poll out of interest?

Offline Big Dick Edwards

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #110 on: June 11, 2011, 06:48:59 AM »
Definitely not.

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #111 on: June 11, 2011, 06:51:19 AM »
If he's never been here he'd be the obvious candidate.  But because he has and left us in the brown stuff the answer has to be no.

Offline darren woolley

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #112 on: June 11, 2011, 07:13:38 AM »
I wouldn't want him back that's a big NO from me.

Offline lovejoy

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #113 on: June 11, 2011, 07:29:50 AM »
Yes. Sometimes you have to look forward and not back.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #114 on: June 11, 2011, 08:20:19 AM »
Well, perhaps it's the distance but i'm not as vitriolic in my dislike of MON - sure he dropped us in it but so have other Villa Managers in the past.

So my answer is depends, there are others i'd prefer ahead of him, Van Gaal, Moyes for starters.

And there are others that I would still take MON over, McClaren, Martinez, Hughes.

Having said all that, we won't be asking him and even if we did he wouldn't be accepting - too much pride on both sides to allow this.

« Last Edit: June 11, 2011, 08:43:12 AM by OzVilla »

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #115 on: June 11, 2011, 08:30:44 AM »
Would you say the same about Ron Saunders?
We had tangible success under Saunders.

We did and it was great.  But this is why I think we go over the top in our dislike of MON.

Saunders has a spat with the Chairman and walked out on us a week or two before the Quarter Final of the European Cup and pitched up the following week over at Small Heath.

MON had a spat with the Chairman and walked out on us 5 days before the start of a season.

I often think that Saunders reputation at the Villa stands the test of time because his spell at Blose was a failure - had he been a real sucess we'd be hating him more than anyone.  So the actions of both men were highly questionable against our Club - you'd never know that though.


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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #116 on: June 11, 2011, 08:33:03 AM »
He is too old and his football brain is stuck in the 80's.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #117 on: June 11, 2011, 08:41:12 AM »
Categorically no. Aside from the prickish way he left, he'd hit his 'ceiling' as far as I am concerned. He had a great chance, was heavily backed financially and didn't take it. He did a good job, but not good enough to behave the way he did.

Offline Gaztonniller

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #118 on: June 11, 2011, 08:54:05 AM »
Start a poll please. Then ask Oliver "I bet Villa fans would love O'Neill back" Holt to read out the results on Election Special. Then have him killed.

I also bet fans would love to have such similar and promising signings now ready to exit again coming back through the door.  Who can argue against his record of spotting talent and them developing into INTERNATIONAL players. 

Doesn't a previous manager who first brought Milner to the club get the credit for spotting talent? We'd all have signed him anyway after that on loan season so MoN wasn't exactly unique in wanting him in B6. So really, that leaves Young.

Against that we have the list of wasted money, which we all know.
And JUST those two resulted in nr 50 million!! coming back into the club (minus expenditure of course).  What a poor manager to consider returning.

So we're agreed then, it's just Ashley Young he spotted.
And the profit we'll make on him will just about cancel out the loss we took on Curtis. So yes, he's a poor manager to consider returning.

Is that the Curtis as in England international call-up when at the club who then got injured?

It's the Curtis Davis currently playing in the Championship after being sold at a massive loss.
Or do you consider Curtis a great signing and the kind we should bring Mon back to make more of?
Start a poll please. Then ask Oliver "I bet Villa fans would love O'Neill back" Holt to read out the results on Election Special. Then have him killed.

I also bet fans would love to have such similar and promising signings now ready to exit again coming back through the door.  Who can argue against his record of spotting talent and them developing into INTERNATIONAL players. 

Doesn't a previous manager who first brought Milner to the club get the credit for spotting talent? We'd all have signed him anyway after that on loan season so MoN wasn't exactly unique in wanting him in B6. So really, that leaves Young.

Against that we have the list of wasted money, which we all know.
And JUST those two resulted in nr 50 million!! coming back into the club (minus expenditure of course).  What a poor manager to consider returning.

So we're agreed then, it's just Ashley Young he spotted.
And the profit we'll make on him will just about cancel out the loss we took on Curtis. So yes, he's a poor manager to consider returning.

Is that the Curtis as in England international call-up when at the club who then got injured?

It's the Curtis Davis currently playing in the Championship after being sold at a massive loss.
Or do you consider Curtis a great signing and the kind we should bring Mon back to make more of?

Just to play devils advocate, although I agree that Davies was a shocking signing, it could be argued that the purchases (and subsequent sales) of Ash and Milner enabled us to be in a position to compete in the market and buy Darren Bent.  If we are saying that Ash and Milner went for 34 mil plus Ireland that equates to about 40 mil in sales for players who cost a total of 21 mil.  That 19 mil or so profit is Bent's fee right there. 

And there speaks (as the name suggests) is another true hardcore fan brave enough to look outside that box of emotional blinkers preventing the seeing of the obvious solution to current difficulties. Its such posts like this that shows that you cant put the blinkers on the majority of rational thinking fans on this board. 

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Re: Would you have MON back!!
« Reply #119 on: June 11, 2011, 08:55:04 AM »
No.

The way he left us was unproffessional, dis-respectful and out of order.

The only thing i would say though is that i honestly believe that the squad of players he left behind were better than what Ged managed to get out of them last season. A combination of an absolutely shocking injury list and poor management on Ged and Gmac's part played more of a part for our overall poor season than MON walking out.

 


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