Would you have MON back!!

[Gaztonniller]

Been there, tried him, didn't work. Let's try someone new.

Now come on seriously; I know this is just a bit of What if chatter. But being serious, in what way didnt he exactly work in the overall scheme of things?

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Taking the blinkers OFF for a minute.   IF a potential manager (other than MON) was linked with the current vacancy came with this record  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O'Neill  (and replace the Villa section/part in WIKI with another club, say Everton) would there be any objection?

And my last post for now is that Why has everyone avoided answering this valid point about the blinkers. 

[dave.woodhall]

What the fuck has O'Leary got to do with anything?

I think he is pointing out that we improved under MON after the previous manager, who happened to be David O'Leary, was a disaster.

A billionaire new owner might have had something to do with that.

[cdbearsfan]

So it wasn't exactly a huge achievement to improve then was it, especially as he had a Jabsquillion quid to spend?

[Holtenderinthesky]

What the fuck has O'Leary got to do with anything?

I think he is pointing out that we improved under MON after the previous manager, who happened to be David O'Leary, was a disaster.

A billionaire new owner might have had something to do with that.

Yes but if we are to accept that MON made so many bad signings and screwed us with the wage bill how, by that rationelle, can the "billionaire owner" have improved us?  It was MON who brought them in.  Do you see my point?  How can Randy take credit for buying the players that MON shouldn't have signed?

[madirishvillain]

so MON leaves us in the shit at the start of last season - evil man


just erase his seasons out then?


we settled out of court?

why did we do that?

[Holtenderinthesky]

so MON leaves us in the shit at the start of last season - evil man


just erase his seasons out then?


we settled out of court?

why did we do that?

Perhaps because, as with most litigation cases, it is not beneficial to drag the club through the courts when we have so many other issues associated with running a huge business. 

[Louzie0]

HEITS - you know?  I haven't a clue about the outcome of the tribunal, and I must admit I was surprised at the reports of the outcome, i.e. that MON said he was happy.

 I posted in the belief that if MON was happy then Villa were not, because of the context. So, as a Villa Fan -  If Villa were not happy then why on earth would we want to invite back somebody who left us in the lurch, condemned us to a 'transitional season' and then screwed us over in a legal process at the end of it?

Like you, I am sometimes genuinely surprised at the actions of some of the people in charge of the club.  But I have to say that last August and last month, MON left me breathless.  I really don't want that man anywhere near the club again.

[Brazilian Villain]

The way he left and his legacy ruin it. 

Would you say the same about Ron Saunders?

To answer the OP's question, no. Like that ex that you had great times with the manner of his departure probably means it's not a good idea to go back. I've witnessed a good 8-9 years of people sniping here at our 2 Irish ex-managers and it gets tiresome. It would be nice if we could just get behind our manager without certain people trying to outdo their mates in how outrageous they can be in their abuse. Yawn!!!

MON's legacy is that I posted 8-9 months before his appointment that he'd come to Villa and people said no way could we get him. That's how low we felt. Now we expect the likes of Ancelotti and Van Gaal to turn up at VP. He along with Randy's excellent stewardship lifted us out of the doldrums and made us feel we were going places again. I don't recall anyone complaining when he repeatedly referenced our European Cup win and I certianly don't remember Houllier mentioning it. Under SGT 2 and DOL we were relieved to avoid relegation, under MON we were disappointed not to be in the Champs League.

 

[Holtenderinthesky]

The way he left and his legacy ruin it. 

Would you say the same about Ron Saunders?



 Now we expect the likes of Ancelotti and Van Gaal to turn up at VP.
 

Do we?

[PeterWithesShin]

I was only a nipper at the time but i'm pretty sure I remember a lot of hatred towards Saunders when he took his next job.

[madirishvillain]

so MON leaves us in the shit at the start of last season - evil man


just erase his seasons out then?


we settled out of court?

why did we do that?

Perhaps because, as with most litigation cases, it is not beneficial to drag the club through the courts when we have so many other issues associated with running a huge business.

well that is a way of looking at it i suppose

should have went through with it and gave the evil man no money for leaving us up shit creek

or was there another side to the story?

look i dont like MON for what he done last year -  i just stated that we cannot attract a manager of MON's standing - even now

but if we are asking to talk to Martinez (so far he has "saved" wigan from relegation 2 years in a row now)

we are down sizing in a big way, that is how far we have fallen in a few years since Randy has taken over - after the genuine feel good factor when he bought into the Villa dream

[Rudy Can't Fail]

MON? 'Pearls to pigs' is always a phrase that comes up when I think of him. I'd have expected more from DOL given the same money MON had.

Put me on the ear wax diet.

Madirishvillain - I can see why you got the name. MON's standing has nothing to do with his (lack of) ability.

[The Left Side]

No thank you.

[madirishvillain]

MON? 'Pearls to pigs' is always a phrase that comes up when I think of him. I'd have expected more from DOL given the same money MON had.

Put me on the ear wax diet.

Madirishvillain - I can see why you got the name. MON's standing has nothing to do with his (lack of) ability.

really Mark?

tell us more.......

or read the whole thread before bouncing in on the last page

[Ger Regan]

Would you say the same about Ron Saunders?

We had tangible success under Saunders. What did we have under O'Neill? A couple of cup runs and league positions that should have been expected considering the outlay on players, albeit done consistently.