Quote from: aftab235 on June 23, 2011, 07:19:26 PMRubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.He's probably quit because he is going to a bigger club to win trophies.
Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.
Quote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:21:44 PMQuote from: aftab235 on June 23, 2011, 07:19:26 PMRubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.He's probably quit because he is going to a bigger club to win trophies.I am not listening. I refuse to believe that there is a bigger club out there other than us and I don't care how it looks to everyone else...SO THERE
Quote from: Holte L2 on June 24, 2011, 01:32:12 PMThanks for the memories Ash. Class player on his day.Legion, it's time for that video..
Thanks for the memories Ash. Class player on his day.
Quote from: aftab235 on June 24, 2011, 04:02:33 PMQuote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:21:44 PMQuote from: aftab235 on June 23, 2011, 07:19:26 PMRubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.He's probably quit because he is going to a bigger club to win trophies.I am not listening. I refuse to believe that there is a bigger club out there other than us and I don't care how it looks to everyone else...SO THERENo sense of loyalty? Didn't he just spend 4.5yrs with us, gave us near enough 100% every game and for what? 2 trips to wembley and 0 Trophies! At least he has gone to Man Utd who are the best club in england and he has more chance of being successful there than at Villa. Plus he didn't hold us to ransom for a new contract. We made him an offer and he said no as he wanted to apply his trade in the Champions league. Fair play to him. Shows he has ambition
Overall he was brilliant for us, frustrating at times but he dragged us through more than his fair share of games almost single handed and we're going to miss him dearly - now we've got to find the next Ashley Young and sign him.
But that's where the brilliance of Ferguson shines through though isn't it Redman,building from a position of strength? It takes a lot of bottle to flog Ince who at the time was around 27 and one of England's best midfielders and replace him with a youth team product.Also have to disagree with you when you say that Cantona was the best player in the league when man U signed him.I believe he'd only played something like 13 games for Leeds when Utd signed him and wasn't evena first team regular.I might have a bit of fuzzy memory here but as i remember the Leeds side that had just won the title had done it with a front two of Chapman and Wallace with Cantona coming in at the end of the season and making mainly sub appearances.
Quote from: QBVILLA on June 24, 2011, 10:30:12 AMBut that's where the brilliance of Ferguson shines through though isn't it Redman,building from a position of strength? It takes a lot of bottle to flog Ince who at the time was around 27 and one of England's best midfielders and replace him with a youth team product.Also have to disagree with you when you say that Cantona was the best player in the league when man U signed him.I believe he'd only played something like 13 games for Leeds when Utd signed him and wasn't evena first team regular.I might have a bit of fuzzy memory here but as i remember the Leeds side that had just won the title had done it with a front two of Chapman and Wallace with Cantona coming in at the end of the season and making mainly sub appearances.Fergie isn't brilliant. He's simply been a solid cheque book manager reaping the rewards that should follow from his financial advantages .If he was the managerial genius that some suggest he is, he would have had a plan to deal with Barcelona, yet all he could do was sit there shaking like a drunk on a park bench.
No sense of loyalty? Didn't he just spend 4.5yrs with us, gave us near enough 100% every game and for what? 2 trips to wembley and 0 Trophies! At least he has gone to Man Utd who are the best club in england and he has more chance of being successful there than at Villa. Plus he didn't hold us to ransom for a new contract. We made him an offer and he said no as he wanted to apply his trade in the Champions league. Fair play to him. Shows he has ambition