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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #420 on: June 04, 2011, 08:24:29 PM »

He hasn't exactly had the same opportunities as Ancelloti has he ?

I wonder why?

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #421 on: June 05, 2011, 09:14:28 AM »
Just heard the tail end of an interview with someone on Radio 5 who it sounds like is Mark Hughes's agent. The Villa job was mentioned, and how honourable Mark Hughes is, he didn't want to leave Fulham part way through a contract. The agent was saying a lot without making any firm commitments, which was exactly what I'd expect him to say.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #422 on: June 05, 2011, 09:25:58 AM »

He hasn't exactly had the same opportunities as Ancelloti has he ?

I wonder why?

Partly because it is unfashionable to appoint British managers.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #423 on: June 05, 2011, 09:53:31 AM »

He hasn't exactly had the same opportunities as Ancelloti has he ?

I wonder why?

He hasn't exactly had the same opportunities as Ancelloti has he ?

I wonder why?

Partly because it is unfashionable to appoint British managers.

Partly because it is unfashionable to appoint British managers.

Not that unfashionable - 15 in the premier league at the moment.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #424 on: June 05, 2011, 10:31:14 AM »

He hasn't exactly had the same opportunities as Ancelloti has he ?

I wonder why?

He hasn't exactly had the same opportunities as Ancelloti has he ?

I wonder why?

Partly because it is unfashionable to appoint British managers.

Partly because it is unfashionable to appoint British managers.

Not that unfashionable - 15 in the premier league at the moment.

The majority of those are at clubs that don't offer the opportunities referred to. Hughes himself suffered for that attitude at Man City.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #425 on: June 05, 2011, 02:57:04 PM »
But the majority of clubs don't have those opportunities to offer in the first place.

Of the current top six, three have British managers. Throw in the next two and it is five.

I think you've a point in that some managers get more positive press because they're foreign (Martinez as you quoted the other day, for example), but I don't think the evidence stacks up on this point.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #426 on: June 05, 2011, 02:58:43 PM »
Am I right in thinking that if are to be blessed/cursed with Hughes then it cannot be until the end of the month, meaning over 3 weeks of endless speculation?

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #427 on: June 15, 2011, 04:21:46 PM »


The argument of whether Hughes may be better for Villa in certain circumstances is totally valid, but to judge a guy on how good he is you look at his achievements. Just like you look at a forward and see goal ratios.
Thank you.

Bollocks! Randy read this thread and was obviously swayed by the 'more achievements' argument from ozz and hilts. Ah well, I tried to expose it as the crock of shit that it is, but should have tried harder. Sorry everyone.

Prepare for the sale of Bent and the purchase of that bloke who scored loads for Peterborough.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 04:24:20 PM by Percy »

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #428 on: June 15, 2011, 04:46:18 PM »
Why have we not gonna after Mark Hughes?

He is the stand-out candidate. :'(

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #429 on: June 15, 2011, 04:47:38 PM »
Why have we not gonna after Mark Hughes?

He is the stand-out candidate. :'(

Because McLeish has more achievements.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #430 on: June 15, 2011, 04:50:41 PM »
Uh oh, I can sense this embedding intself in Percy's psyche next to the 'zonal marking' matter.... ;)

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #431 on: June 15, 2011, 05:12:17 PM »
Uh oh, I can sense this embedding intself in Percy's psyche next to the 'zonal marking' matter.... ;)

What do you think Risso? Is a manager's record of achievement an absolute measure of his ability? Bear in mind that this translates as 'McLeish is better than Hughes and Moyes'.


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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #432 on: June 15, 2011, 05:18:29 PM »
Uh oh, I can sense this embedding intself in Percy's psyche next to the 'zonal marking' matter.... ;)

What do you think Risso? Is a manager's record of achievement an absolute measure of his ability? Bear in mind that this translates as 'McLeish is better than Hughes and Moyes'.



I still don't get the Hughes love-in for some people. He's won a total of sweet fuck-all as a manager. Has he got potential? Sure. But in my opinon he's got away with his name being Mark Hughes. He's done ok at Blackburn and Fulham, and with money being thrown all over the place at Man City he was on the right track.

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #433 on: June 15, 2011, 05:20:12 PM »


The argument of whether Hughes may be better for Villa in certain circumstances is totally valid, but to judge a guy on how good he is you look at his achievements. Just like you look at a forward and see goal ratios.
Thank you.

Bollocks! Randy read this thread and was obviously swayed by the 'more achievements' argument from ozz and hilts. Ah well, I tried to expose it as the crock of shit that it is, but should have tried harder. Sorry everyone.

Prepare for the sale of Bent and the purchase of that bloke who scored loads for Peterborough.

The achievements do have to be looked at in context though Percy. If the only relevant achievement was in the midst of getting relegated twice, then obviously it is somewhat devalued. If it is winning the European cup and never finishing lower than 6th, it is better than having won not a jot. 

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Re: Mark Hughes Quits Fulham
« Reply #434 on: June 15, 2011, 05:29:57 PM »


The argument of whether Hughes may be better for Villa in certain circumstances is totally valid, but to judge a guy on how good he is you look at his achievements. Just like you look at a forward and see goal ratios.
Thank you.

Bollocks! Randy read this thread and was obviously swayed by the 'more achievements' argument from ozz and hilts. Ah well, I tried to expose it as the crock of shit that it is, but should have tried harder. Sorry everyone.

Prepare for the sale of Bent and the purchase of that bloke who scored loads for Peterborough.

The achievements do have to be looked at in context though Percy. 

Big of you to change your mind mate.

 


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