Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[Legion]

Yes but I would like a seperate subject please if possible.. As I would like views on the criteria and to discuss it with fellow villans. I wont be able to do that on this thread because its about the next manager not the criteria..

I may go have lunch for an hour and come back..I would like to go to a particular subject on the forum. This thread covers too much a wide area to discuss the subject matter I have raised.

I can understand that if the thread gains NO interest then it could be locked.. But its not abusive in any way. And its about a subject that concerns the club and been raised in local media. Please can it be re-opened in the interest of it being a subject a forum user wishes to discuss?

Could you please PM a Mod with requests like these as per the site rules? Thank you.

[PoshVilla]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rijkaard

Amusing.

[Eiresvillan]

Sorry im still trying to work out how to PM a moderator..I clicked on the moderator's name that locked the thread but it didnt let send him/her a message..

[eliotpollak]

OK lets all calm down a bit

We all know that the club do things in a professional way, either we asked for permission to speak to AM, Blues said no so he resigned OR we don't care about AM and were simply replying to accusations that we were being under hand. When the news about Martinez broke and it looked like he had turned us down the club issued a statement saying we hadn't even been offered the job. They have said nothing officially about McLeish or tried to defend themselves against accusations from the sty, why ? Because there is nothing to defend. All we have said is "piss off noses, if we want to talk to him we will, he is a free agent, don't tell us ASTON VILLA who we can and can't talk to, now piss off back to the lower leagues" There is no way Randy would spoil his reputation by acting like this
As for what the General may or may not have said, if it was real the way I read it was if the board think he is the right man for the job then we will appoint him, we will not let the fans pick him.
Whoever gets the job will have his lovers and his hatters so in someone's eyes the board will have got it wrong.
If Doug was still in charge you can bet your boots that every link would have been answered with "we would have made him the highest paid manager in the world but he wouldn't come" or something along those lines.
My big fear is that Randy will get fed up with the abuse and put us up for sale and where would that leave us. At the end of the day he owns the club (that is what us fans wanted if I remember) and is free to run it how he wishes.
If, and I still think its a big if, he does appoint McLeish then on his head be it.
Maybe I am trying to convince myself but I just can't see the club behaving in this way.

@Dr Peters, The point about RL and his departing, he's a businessman first and foremost, the last thing he is going to do is become emotional, throw a hizzy fit and say I'm pissed of with this abuse I'm ditching Aston Villa, he makes money out of Villa, one way or another, thats his prime concern.

He makes no money out of Villa...on the contrary

Of course he makes money out of Villa  may not come in a way that is measured in terms of the bottom line, but he gets what he needs, no problem.

Ph*cking hope he does, he's a moron if he doesn't.

I really don't see how he does

[Ennis]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2003376/The-Midlander-Aston-Villa-amateur-appointment-process.html

Terrible paper, but I do like this (unfortunately accurate) quote

Why is it that Fulham were able to line up Martin Jol effectively within 48 hours?

Villa have had the best part of two months - and still they fumble about like a teenager groping in the dark for a bra-strap.

[King of the Nørth]

The club have extended the deadline for season tickets to be paid by a programme of instalments. Possibly due to low sales?

Deadline extended

 Could they mention season tickets at a worse possible time? notice how they put it. Not " Cmon get yer season tickets in for an excitin season ahead!" but " errr... if you guys want to renew your errr season tickets you can. We'll give you a bit more time to think about it. "

 Reading too much into it

[PaulTheVillan]

I think it's time we start getting used to the idea of McLeish

[eastie]

No matter who was or wasn't approached it seems clear that Hughes was not a target - I find this surprising as I'm sure he has the credentials and for a small fee we could have probably approached him after he resigned. Mysteryman has been clear that Hughes was not a target and the club quickly distanced themselves from him- what has he done wrong?

[Concrete John]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2003376/The-Midlander-Aston-Villa-amateur-appointment-process.html

Terrible paper, but I do like this (unfortunately accurate) quote

Why is it that Fulham were able to line up Martin Jol effectively within 48 hours?

Villa have had the best part of two months - and still they fumble about like a teenager groping in the dark for a bra-strap.

How is it accurate?  Villa may have considered possibilities, but would have took no action until the GH situation was resolved, rightly in my opinion.

Plus, Fulham were after Jol since last summer when Ajax wouldn't let him leave, so most of their groundwork was already done.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I think it's time we start getting used to the idea of McLeish

I'll never get used to it.

That Daily Mail quote above, says it all.

[Eiresvillan]

Sorry about that Legion..Ive sent the moderator a message now.. I was clicking on the name.. Just realised you click on the little quote box under the name..

Hopefully I can get the thread re-opened now

[DeKuip]

OK lets all calm down a bit

We all know that the club do things in a professional way, either we asked for permission to speak to AM, Blues said no so he resigned OR we don't care about AM and were simply replying to accusations that we were being under hand. When the news about Martinez broke and it looked like he had turned us down the club issued a statement saying we hadn't even been offered the job. They have said nothing officially about McLeish or tried to defend themselves against accusations from the sty, why ? Because there is nothing to defend. All we have said is "piss off noses, if we want to talk to him we will, he is a free agent, don't tell us ASTON VILLA who we can and can't talk to, now piss off back to the lower leagues" There is no way Randy would spoil his reputation by acting like this
As for what the General may or may not have said, if it was real the way I read it was if the board think he is the right man for the job then we will appoint him, we will not let the fans pick him.
Whoever gets the job will have his lovers and his hatters so in someone's eyes the board will have got it wrong.
If Doug was still in charge you can bet your boots that every link would have been answered with "we would have made him the highest paid manager in the world but he wouldn't come" or something along those lines.
My big fear is that Randy will get fed up with the abuse and put us up for sale and where would that leave us. At the end of the day he owns the club (that is what us fans wanted if I remember) and is free to run it how he wishes.
If, and I still think its a big if, he does appoint McLeish then on his head be it.
Maybe I am trying to convince myself but I just can't see the club behaving in this way.

@Dr Peters, The point about RL and his departing, he's a businessman first and foremost, the last thing he is going to do is become emotional, throw a hizzy fit and say I'm pissed of with this abuse I'm ditching Aston Villa, he makes money out of Villa, one way or another, thats his prime concern.

He makes no money out of Villa...on the contrary

Of course he makes money out of Villa  may not come in a way that is measured in terms of the bottom line, but he gets what he needs, no problem.

Ph*cking hope he does, he's a moron if he doesn't.

As he's put XXX millions of his own money into Villa, surely the only way he could ever hope to make money out of the club is by selling it for a hell of a lot more than he paid for it.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Hopefully I can get the thread re-opened now

Not until you fill a blue form in, posters with less than 50 posts only get a yellow form, you can however apply for a blue form by filling a red form in.

[not3bad]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rijkaard

Amusing.

Joined Villa today?!  Rubbish!  TonyD said Thursday!!!

[VillaAlways]

I think it's time we start getting used to the idea of McLeish

I just can't see it,I really can't but I'm through worrying about it. If it happens  it's on their heads if it goes wrong