Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll

[Greg N'Ash]

think i'm going to bugger off till tonight. Hopefully there be some statement to the negative about Mcliesh, either from the club or a sincere Facebook apology from the General along the lines of "i was pissed lads and i'd just had a line of coke, the wife had kicked me out the bed after a row. My head's killing me. What did i post again?"

Laterzzzzzz

[DR PETERS]

OK lets all calm down a bit

We all know that the club do things in a professional way, either we asked for permission to speak to AM, Blues said no so he resigned OR we don't care about AM and were simply replying to accusations that we were being under hand. When the news about Martinez broke and it looked like he had turned us down the club issued a statement saying we hadn't even been offered the job. They have said nothing officially about McLeish or tried to defend themselves against accusations from the sty, why ? Because there is nothing to defend. All we have said is "piss off noses, if we want to talk to him we will, he is a free agent, don't tell us ASTON VILLA who we can and can't talk to, now piss off back to the lower leagues" There is no way Randy would spoil his reputation by acting like this
As for what the General may or may not have said, if it was real the way I read it was if the board think he is the right man for the job then we will appoint him, we will not let the fans pick him.
Whoever gets the job will have his lovers and his hatters so in someone's eyes the board will have got it wrong.
If Doug was still in charge you can bet your boots that every link would have been answered with "we would have made him the highest paid manager in the world but he wouldn't come" or something along those lines.
My big fear is that Randy will get fed up with the abuse and put us up for sale and where would that leave us. At the end of the day he owns the club (that is what us fans wanted if I remember) and is free to run it how he wishes.
If, and I still think its a big if, he does appoint McLeish then on his head be it.
Maybe I am trying to convince myself but I just can't see the club behaving in this way.

[MYSTERYMAN]

Bein

Mysteryman, what has happened to cause such a volte face?
You were adamant yesterday there was nothing in this.

Come on mate. It's time to elaborate a bit I think. This is all getting silly now. Somebody needs to tell us what the fuck is going on or at least help fill in some blanks.
You didn't want to cock a deal up by mentioning it. Is that one dead now and if so why?
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Being blunt I believed a source when it wasn't my normal source my total cock up and apologise for it , will not happen again !!!!! . You can imagine the stick I have had in the real world and deservedly so . I still am not even sure though we are in for AM the thing is I don't know and impossible it appears to find out .  Re the main target not sure where we are with it it's radio silence

[Eiresvillan]

But why would we even entertain the idea to speak to McLeish?

Surely a club like Villa with CL aspirations should be listing the top 5 best managers that are within reach? This list wouldnt include McLeish surely? So why even entertain the idea?

[Cjamesk]

But why would we even entertain the idea to speak to McLeish?

Surely a club like Villa with CL aspirations should be listing the top 5 best managers that are within reach? This list wouldnt include McLeish surely? So why even entertain the idea?

Maybe the thinking is with better finance and a chairman with 100% backing he could be the one to do just this.

Either way a bitter pill to swallow even at this moment it being press speculation, but I feel it would be far more constructive to get behind the appointment than dismiss it at this stage and the detrimental effects it would have.

[Villanation]

OK lets all calm down a bit

We all know that the club do things in a professional way, either we asked for permission to speak to AM, Blues said no so he resigned OR we don't care about AM and were simply replying to accusations that we were being under hand. When the news about Martinez broke and it looked like he had turned us down the club issued a statement saying we hadn't even been offered the job. They have said nothing officially about McLeish or tried to defend themselves against accusations from the sty, why ? Because there is nothing to defend. All we have said is "piss off noses, if we want to talk to him we will, he is a free agent, don't tell us ASTON VILLA who we can and can't talk to, now piss off back to the lower leagues" There is no way Randy would spoil his reputation by acting like this
As for what the General may or may not have said, if it was real the way I read it was if the board think he is the right man for the job then we will appoint him, we will not let the fans pick him.
Whoever gets the job will have his lovers and his hatters so in someone's eyes the board will have got it wrong.
If Doug was still in charge you can bet your boots that every link would have been answered with "we would have made him the highest paid manager in the world but he wouldn't come" or something along those lines.
My big fear is that Randy will get fed up with the abuse and put us up for sale and where would that leave us. At the end of the day he owns the club (that is what us fans wanted if I remember) and is free to run it how he wishes.
If, and I still think its a big if, he does appoint McLeish then on his head be it.
Maybe I am trying to convince myself but I just can't see the club behaving in this way.

@Dr Peters, The point about RL and his departing, he's a businessman first and foremost, the last thing he is going to do is become emotional, throw a hizzy fit and say I'm pissed of with this abuse I'm ditching Aston Villa, he makes money out of Villa, one way or another, thats his prime concern.

The point about we approach, then we don't approach, but its said we did, but we didn't, seems to mean an awful lot of people such as Martinez himself seem quite happy to strut out in front of the camera live on TV and say yes I was approached by Aston Villa and knocked them back as did the Wigan chairman.

As said previously, who do you believe.

[eliotpollak]

OK lets all calm down a bit

We all know that the club do things in a professional way, either we asked for permission to speak to AM, Blues said no so he resigned OR we don't care about AM and were simply replying to accusations that we were being under hand. When the news about Martinez broke and it looked like he had turned us down the club issued a statement saying we hadn't even been offered the job. They have said nothing officially about McLeish or tried to defend themselves against accusations from the sty, why ? Because there is nothing to defend. All we have said is "piss off noses, if we want to talk to him we will, he is a free agent, don't tell us ASTON VILLA who we can and can't talk to, now piss off back to the lower leagues" There is no way Randy would spoil his reputation by acting like this
As for what the General may or may not have said, if it was real the way I read it was if the board think he is the right man for the job then we will appoint him, we will not let the fans pick him.
Whoever gets the job will have his lovers and his hatters so in someone's eyes the board will have got it wrong.
If Doug was still in charge you can bet your boots that every link would have been answered with "we would have made him the highest paid manager in the world but he wouldn't come" or something along those lines.
My big fear is that Randy will get fed up with the abuse and put us up for sale and where would that leave us. At the end of the day he owns the club (that is what us fans wanted if I remember) and is free to run it how he wishes.
If, and I still think its a big if, he does appoint McLeish then on his head be it.
Maybe I am trying to convince myself but I just can't see the club behaving in this way.

@Dr Peters, The point about RL and his departing, he's a businessman first and foremost, the last thing he is going to do is become emotional, throw a hizzy fit and say I'm pissed of with this abuse I'm ditching Aston Villa, he makes money out of Villa, one way or another, thats his prime concern.

He makes no money out of Villa...on the contrary

[King of the Nørth]

 Have to say it's been 2 weeks now and I have tried to remain patient and not get carried away with all the negativety. 2 weeks and still no nearer to knowing who our new boss is and Im finding it desperately difficult to keep my faith in Randy and the board. 2 weeks is a long time in football. Especially with the problems we have within our squad from getting rid of deadwood to buying players for key positions. I WANT to keep the faith and want to BELIEVE the board have found their man and its just a formailty. But all this new manager hype is is just frankly, pissing me off now. We should be at a point where we are discussing the type of football we play and the new players we could identify under our new manager.

  Im still going to reserve judgment until we name our new boss but we cannot let this linger until the 1st of July, surely??!!

[Eiresvillan]

How come this poll can stay up...Yet my thread and poll about Premierleague Experiance and its importance has been locked? Bit discriminative isnt it?

Blimey anyone would im abusing people on here.. Why arnt we allowed to use the forum to get opionons on a subject with fellow Villans?

I wanted to see how many Villans felt the importance of appointing a manager that has Premierleague Experiance?

Its been printed in the mail by Matt Kendrick thats its the part of the criteria required for the job.


Can you re-open my thread please, so I can get an idea of how fellow Villans feel on the subject.. Its a area I would like to discuss with fans. I am a regular user on the forums and this thread is about McLeish or who we want as manager.. My thread is about the criteria required for the appointment/ not who the appointment is..

[Villanation]

OK lets all calm down a bit

We all know that the club do things in a professional way, either we asked for permission to speak to AM, Blues said no so he resigned OR we don't care about AM and were simply replying to accusations that we were being under hand. When the news about Martinez broke and it looked like he had turned us down the club issued a statement saying we hadn't even been offered the job. They have said nothing officially about McLeish or tried to defend themselves against accusations from the sty, why ? Because there is nothing to defend. All we have said is "piss off noses, if we want to talk to him we will, he is a free agent, don't tell us ASTON VILLA who we can and can't talk to, now piss off back to the lower leagues" There is no way Randy would spoil his reputation by acting like this
As for what the General may or may not have said, if it was real the way I read it was if the board think he is the right man for the job then we will appoint him, we will not let the fans pick him.
Whoever gets the job will have his lovers and his hatters so in someone's eyes the board will have got it wrong.
If Doug was still in charge you can bet your boots that every link would have been answered with "we would have made him the highest paid manager in the world but he wouldn't come" or something along those lines.
My big fear is that Randy will get fed up with the abuse and put us up for sale and where would that leave us. At the end of the day he owns the club (that is what us fans wanted if I remember) and is free to run it how he wishes.
If, and I still think its a big if, he does appoint McLeish then on his head be it.
Maybe I am trying to convince myself but I just can't see the club behaving in this way.

@Dr Peters, The point about RL and his departing, he's a businessman first and foremost, the last thing he is going to do is become emotional, throw a hizzy fit and say I'm pissed of with this abuse I'm ditching Aston Villa, he makes money out of Villa, one way or another, thats his prime concern.

He makes no money out of Villa...on the contrary

Of course he makes money out of Villa  may not come in a way that is measured in terms of the bottom line, but he gets what he needs, no problem.

Ph*cking hope he does, he's a moron if he doesn't.

[Mr Diggles]

The club have extended the deadline for season tickets to be paid by a programme of instalments. Possibly due to low sales?

Deadline extended

[Ennis]

The thread is about who we think should be manager (as in the title) not about McLeish.  Your discussion about criteria potential new managers should have falls within this

help this helps

[VillaAlways]

The club have extended the deadline for season tickets to be paid by a programme of instalments. Possibly due to low sales?
 
Deadline extended

Or they're fully confident once the new manager is in place they will be inundated

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rijkaard

[Eiresvillan]

Yes but I would like a seperate subject please if possible.. As I would like views on the criteria and to discuss it with fellow villans. I wont be able to do that on this thread because its about the next manager not the criteria..

I may go have lunch for an hour and come back..I would like to go to a particular subject on the forum. This thread covers too much a wide area to discuss the subject matter I have raised.

I can understand that if the thread gains NO interest then it could be locked.. But its not abusive in any way. And its about a subject that concerns the club and been raised in local media. Please can it be re-opened in the interest of it being a subject a forum user wishes to discuss?